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#1 Buknoy

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Posted 09 February 2016 - 04:44 PM

Ano po ang masasabi ninyo dito?


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Posted 09 February 2016 - 05:39 PM

hmm

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Posted 09 February 2016 - 05:41 PM

I got this quote from Facebook. Not sure to the veracity of this but its supposedly by MW Gabionza:

"He was declared on sight by a clandestine lodge. In the GLP only a GM can proclaim a Mason on sight after due deliberations by the Board for General Purposes. We should not entertain the thought of even recognizing him as one being a "member" of a clandestine lodge. Fyi. Thanks"
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Posted 10 February 2016 - 09:57 AM

Nakuha ko lang din yan sa FB.

Pwede po bang magtanong sa mga hermano na kabilang sa GLNF dito? Totoo po bang Sen. Dick Gordon was made a "mason-at-sight" or was he regularly conferred the degrees of Masonry in your jurisdiction? Para po kasing masyadong publicized yung event and hindi tyled. You don't really need to answer these questions if you don't feel like it. Tenks tenks!
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Posted 10 February 2016 - 04:42 PM

I see it as mere grandstanding with all the fanfare and buzz. Parang gumagawa ng ingay. Ang problema alam kaya ni Sec Gordon yung kalagayan ng grupo na sinalihan nya..

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Posted 10 February 2016 - 07:44 PM

View PostKa Berto, on 10 February 2016 - 04:42 PM, said:

I see it as mere grandstanding with all the fanfare and buzz. Parang gumagawa ng ingay. Ang problema alam kaya ni Sec Gordon yung kalagayan ng grupo na sinalihan nya..

Parang si Bro. Cesar Virata na nagpapicture pa kasama ng mga IGLPI na naka-apron, I don't think alam nila mga pinasok nila.

(No offense sa mga taga IGLPI at GLNF ha. Pero alam naman nating lahat na may mga restrictions ang mga miyembro ng GLP kapag pakikitungo sa inyo ang pinag uusapan.)
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Posted 10 February 2016 - 09:07 PM

Ano po ang jurisdiction nila at kakaiba ata ang kanilang ginagamit na apron ser buknoy?

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Posted 11 February 2016 - 08:48 PM

View PostLagalag30582, on 10 February 2016 - 09:07 PM, said:

Ano po ang jurisdiction nila at kakaiba ata ang kanilang ginagamit na apron ser buknoy?

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Posted 15 February 2016 - 05:41 AM

Glad to be back!

anyway, kung ang GNLF po ay isang lohiya lamang, maituturing din na Grand lodge sya ng jurisdiction na ito at may karapatang mag deklara ng isang tao to be mason at sight. tama po ba ang aking sapantaha?
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Posted 15 February 2016 - 11:11 AM

Karapatan ng Grand Lodge nilang mag deklara ng mason at sight in the manner of whatever is acceptable under their jurisdiction. Our only concern here as regular masons is to be aware of the circumstances by which Mr. Gordon was made a mason and conduct ourselves accordingly.

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Posted 16 February 2016 - 11:44 AM

View PostAdmin, on 15 February 2016 - 11:11 AM, said:

Karapatan ng Grand Lodge nilang mag deklara ng mason at sight in the manner of whatever is acceptable under their jurisdiction. Our only concern here as regular masons is to be aware of the circumstances by which Mr. Gordon was made a mason and conduct ourselves accordingly.

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@Scout BroDad - The GLNF has all the right in the world to make Masons out of anyone whom they feel is worthy in their standards. Pero gaya nga ng sabi ni Admin, the information is for us to "conduct ourselves accordingly". Madali kasing magpakilalang Mason ngayon eh pero it's for the info of GLP brethren on how to classify Sen. Gordon's becoming a "Mason". Totoo naman talaga na naging "Mason" si Mr. Gordon pero kailangan malaman nating mga miyembro ng GLP kung ano ang nangyari, at sino ang mga nakapangyari.
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Posted 17 February 2016 - 11:01 AM

ipasok si dick..hehehe..

mga tolskie ano po ba ang tamang process nito??
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Posted 17 February 2016 - 03:40 PM

@dgb, Nakapasok na si Dick, ang tanong eh yung proseso kung papaano sya ipinasok or nakapasok.. hahaha.. Tama ba ako Sir buks at Sir Admin.
Pero tanong lang po, Hindi ba lehitimo ang GLNF or wala lang talagang formal communication ang GLP sa kanila?

Nag tatanong lang po.

Wala kasing ganyang problema sa KofC..

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Posted 21 February 2016 - 11:57 PM

Mason si Gordon sa jurisdiction lamang nila. Eto yung matagal ko ng sinasabi na propaganda. These grand lodges will confer degrees to famous politicians to establish their legitimacy. So kung ikaw ay knocker, bilib na bilib ka. Wow member pala si Gordon dito, sasali na ako!!

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 12:01 AM

Never been a fan of making a Mason on sight. I feel the same with making honorary members. It is unfair and mostly politically motivated.

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 11:35 AM

View PostLiberty 299, on 22 February 2016 - 12:01 AM, said:

Never been a fan of making a Mason on sight. I feel the same with making honorary members. It is unfair and mostly politically motivated.

My sentiments too. To me, honorary members should be conferred only to individuals who have done something extra-ordinary or of great importance TO and FOR the organization BEFORE even the idea of having them conferred is even thought of.

Meaning, there was no hidden agenda why that individual did what he did that would merit such a conferment.

BTW, good to see you back Lib.

Kinda missed your acerbic wit. :P

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 12:02 PM

Pakiss nga Argonaut haha. Baka magalit si Pakyaw, ayaw nya sa gays and lesbians.

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 04:32 PM

View PostLiberty 299, on 22 February 2016 - 12:02 PM, said:

Pakiss nga Argonaut haha. Baka magalit si Pakyaw, ayaw nya sa gays and lesbians.

LOL! Patay tayo dyan repa! :D

Sige, payag ako. Unahan mo muna si MM... gilagid sa gilagid. :o

Anyhoots, so as not to spam this thread, I assume then that Gordon is not recognized by other lodges, yes? :ph34r:

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 08:30 PM

View PostAdmin, on 15 February 2016 - 11:11 AM, said:

Karapatan ng Grand Lodge nilang mag deklara ng mason at sight in the manner of whatever is acceptable under their jurisdiction. Our only concern here as regular masons is to be aware of the circumstances by which Mr. Gordon was made a mason and conduct ourselves accordingly.

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Medyo OT lang at pasensya na po sa tanong, ano po ang pagkakaiba ng GLP sa IGLPI at GLNF?
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View PostAKP_Defender1973, on 22 February 2016 - 08:30 PM, said:

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Medyo OT lang at pasensya na po sa tanong, ano po ang pagkakaiba ng GLP sa IGLPI at GLNF?

I think you can check this thread kapatid : http://www.pinoyfrat...?showtopic=282. Pretty long thread. Google comes handy as well.

I can still remember the thread where I read about 'rubbing elbows' with Clandestine Masons. If I may ask, ano po ba other differences from the non GLP lodges to the blue lodges under the GLP?.. :)
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Posted 25 February 2016 - 03:46 PM

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 03:49 PM

View Post1968iowa777, on 24 February 2016 - 02:34 AM, said:

I think you can check this thread kapatid : http://www.pinoyfrat...?showtopic=282. Pretty long thread. Google comes handy as well.

I can still remember the thread where I read about 'rubbing elbows' with Clandestine Masons. If I may ask, ano po ba other differences from the non GLP lodges to the blue lodges under the GLP?.. :)

Yup, salamat sa info kapatid, actually nabasa ko nga yan pagkatapos kong maisulat ang aking tanong rito... Lufet ni Craftsman hehehehehe
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Posted 18 April 2016 - 10:37 AM

Clandestine po ba ang GLNF?

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 03:28 PM

As far as glp is concerned, yes they are.

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 12:42 AM

ako po ay kabilang sa GLNF na itinuturing ng GLP bilang clandestine. di ko po namin hangad na ako ay kilalanin...ang aking interes ay maaruk ang kalalim lamiman ng itinuturo ng kamasunan (philosphical at esoteric) at isa sa aming layunin  ay upang maipagpatuloy ang tradisyun ng Ritos Escoses Antigo y Aceptado (Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rites) sa ating lupang sinilangan na ating namana sa Grande Oriente Espanol na kung saan ang ating mga magigiting na bayani na katulad ni Dr. Jose Rizal, Emilio Aguinaldo at Andres Bonifacio sa namulat sa pagka piring at kanilang naainag ang Liwanag na nagmumula sa Silangan. Ang Liwanag na nagniningning ang pumukaw sa kanilang kaisipian at nagudyok sa kanilang damdamin di lamang mag himagsik sa pagkaalipin ng ating inang bayan sa mga mananakop na dayuhan at ipaglaban ang pambansang kasarinlan at kalayaan. Kami po ay may tuwirang ugnayan sa mga kasaklawan umiiral sa kontinente ng Europa katulad ng sa Pransya, Italia, Rusya, Belgium, Romania, Portugal, Serbia at iba pang kasakwalan sa Timog America at gitnang silangan na ang tradisyon ay hango sa R.E.A.A.

Sa buong mundo, dalawa ang umiiral na tradisyunal na masoneria, ang isa ay anglo-saxon (York Rite system) o mga kasaklawan ng kinikilala ng UGLE; at ang ikalawa ay ang continental o templarismo na striktong Ritos Escoses (Scottish Rites) lamang.

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 12:47 AM

On the Real Purpose of our Fraternity

The real purpose of our fraternity is not to rebuild the material temple of Solomon but to erect our own spiritual temple wherein truth and love shall thrive; wherein the brotherhood of all under a common parentage shall dwell; and wherein the laws of eternal equality and justice shall abide.

We are engaged in the construction of an inner temple in our own hearts, pure and spotless, fit for the dwelling place of the Divine where God is to be worshiped in truth and in spirit, and where our evil thoughts and unruly passion are to be banished.

We must crush forever superstitions, extremism and fanaticism, bigotry and intolerance and thereby secure the blessings of liberty of conscience. Each child of God must make his worship in accordance to his own conscience and enjoy these prerogatives of the heart and mind of which God alone is the Supreme Judge. No man has the right to usurp powers which belongs to God alone. No man is above his brother except by intelligence, charity, good deeds and education. To no man has God given the authority to replace Him on earth.

Our order is instituted to stop such encroachments and to reconquer our rights and substitute truth for error. Then and only then shall we have reconquer the patrimony of love, wisdom and charity which the God of our hearts has given us. Last but not the least is that Freemasonry has for its essential goal the happiness of the human race and for which imposes on its members unavoidable duties to the society in which they move. A Mason believes that his just reward is in the accomplishment of these duties, in the peace of his spirit and in the satisfaction of having completed his task.

Freemasonry always plays its part behind the scene, inspired by its lofty ideals expressed through its individual members every movement that has stood for the common welfare of the people. Where the spirit of liberty, equality and fraternity ever to become eclipsed in the dark night of cruelty, intolerance and blind fanaticism, Freemasonry will ever keep a light as a beacon of hope, animates and inspires through its brethrens any movement that would thwart such ills and reestablish freedom and justice. Freemasonry has joined its fate to the fate of humanity, to humanity wherever oppressed and deprived of freedom. In places where tyranny and absolutism still sway, where religious fanaticism enslaves free thought and conscience, where arbitrary powers and despotism abuse enormous victims, Freemasons are always found as apostles of liberty, bringing relief to the afflicted, light to the blind, truth to those tortured by doubts, lifting the hearts of the timid, installing into their minds solid convictions, helping to the utmost to create in them an ability to withstand the devastating current of disorder and abuse. Among others, Freemasonry proposes to give security and contentment to the human soul. It regards work as worship, labor as prayer and wisdom as the savior to mankind.

In passing let us be reminded and let us endeavor to adapt it as our norm of conduct as Masons that everyone who desires to be a skillful Mason must not suppose that the task is accomplished by a perfect knowledge of mere phraseology of the ritual, by a readiness in opening and closing a lodge nor by offhand capacity to confer degrees. All these are good in their places but without understanding and knowing their inner meanings they are but mere child’s play. He must diligently study the myths and traditions and the symbols of the order and learning their true meaning and interpretations and their practical applications that may lead him towards attaining higher illumination. For this alone constitutes the science and philosophy – the end, the aim and the design of speculative masonry.

Let us always keeps in mind the Scottish Rite Creed published in the new age: “The cause of the human progress is our cause. The enfranchisement of the human thought our supreme wish, the freedom of the human conscience our mission, and the guaranty of equal rights to all people everywhere the end of our contention.”

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 08:06 AM

Whew! Idol ko na si ginoong Maulana.




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