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Posted 31 January 2010 - 12:00 AM

A BRIEF SKETCH OF ODD FELLOWSHIP


* I.O.O.F branch of the Odd Fellows is the Largest "Unified" Fraternity in the world with every lodge working together under the Sovereign Grand Lodge located in the United States.

* Odd Fellowship was founded in England in the 1700's or even older as a guild of fellows from different odd trades. The oldest surviving rules of an Odd Fellows lodge is rules of Loyal Aristarcus lodge #9 dated March 12, 1748. With it being number 9, this connotes that there are older lodges that existed before this date.

* Odd Fellowship in the U.S continent started around 1800's and was established on April 26, 1819 in Baltimore, Maryland, by Thomas Wildey and four other Odd Fellows from England.

LARGEST BENEVOLENT FRATERNITY


* I.O.O.F is the largest, united international fraternal Organization in the World under one head with some 10,000 to 22,000 lodges; a membership numbering in the millions.

* The commands of Odd Fellowship are to Visit the Sick, to Relieve the Distressed, to Bury the Dead, and to Educate the Orphan. The three principles of our Order are Friendship, Love, and Truth.

* Our aim is to make good men better citizens, better fathers and mothers, better sons and daughters,  husbands and wives, Brothers and sisters. Our slogan is "We seek to elevate and improve the character of man."


ORGANIZATION FOR LADIES


* First fraternal organization to recognize, and authorize, a ladies auxiliary, the Rebekahs. Our Sisters of the Rebekah Degree are a vital and integral part of Odd Fellowship; working hand in hand with the Brothers in promoting the principles, and practicing the commands of our Order. This degree was founded by Brother Schuyler Colfax, U.S. Vice President from 1868 to 1873.

* Besides the Odd fellows lodges which accepts both male and female, a Rebekah lodge gives full power and freedom for women to run a lodge by themselves.

* A truly Family Fraternity with several branches that appeal to all ages. In addition to the Odd Fellows and Rebekah Lodges we have Junior Odd Fellow Lodges for boys and Theta Rho Clubs for girls, ages 8 to 18 years.


MUTUAL ASSISTANCE

* Odd Fellowship is a mutual assistance Organization in which men and women are banded together as Brothers and Sisters, pledged to assist each other whenever the need arises. In 1958, the Order has given over four million dollars for relief alone. Over seven million persons have been given assistance since the Order was founded in the United States more than 190 years ago, and more than five hundred thousand widowed families have been given assistance.

* You will find in nearly every city or town in the United States such as in California that there is an Odd Fellow and Rebekah Lodge, and you will find that the Odd Fellows Halls are usually one of the largest and finest buildings in the community.


INTERNATIONAL FRATERNITY

* Odd Fellowship is truly a worldwide fraternity with Lodges operating in Australia, Austria, Belgium, Belize, Canada, Chile, Cuba, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nigeria, Norway, Philippines, Poland, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, United States of America, Uruguay, and Venezuela.

* The true total amount of invested funds by Odd Fellowship greatly exceeds one hundred million dollars, and contributions to various disasters throughout the years has run into the millions.


CHILDREN'S HOMES

* We are NOT an insurance Order. We issue no policies. Yet,"Should anything happen, we are ready, willing, and able to keep, feed, clothe, and educate your children, should they, by some means, be deprived of you as living parents." U.S. Government surveys have indicated that it cost from $12,K to over $20,K,to rear a child from kindergarten through high-school.

* More than 50 children, both Orphans and half-orphans, are given every opportunity of receiving a sound foundation for becoming useful and worthwhile citizens at the Odd Fellows Childrens Home in Gilroy,California same as in other states. We assure you, as a member of this Great Order, that your children will be cared for, and by those who are directly interested in you and your family.

OLD FOLKS HOME

* The Home feature not only means something to you as a parent,it means much to you as a person. When you reach the declining years, and should you then need the protecting care of the Old Folks Home for yourself, and for your wife or should your widow need it, and you have been a member of an Odd fellows lodge for at least 20 years, it stands before you with an open door.

* In California all Odd Fellows and Rebekahs are very proud of our Old Folks Home at Saratoga where more than 180 Brothers and Sisters are being given fraternal care in the sunset days of life. Our Million Dollar Hom,e for our aged members has already cared for more than 2,100 Brothers and Sisters since it was founded in 1912. There are also other Homes located in other states that offer similar opportunities.

MORE THAN 60 ODD FELLOWS HOMES

* Some sixty Odd Fellows Homes for the children and the aged are operated in the United States and Canada alone; MORE HOMES OF THIS TYPE THAN ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION! Many millions of dollars are invested in our homes which have given refuge to more than 35,000 persons. Today more than 5,000 persons are being cared for in Odd Fellows Homes.

* Odd Fellowship was the originator of the home idea, - founding the first home for aged and orphans during the 19th century in Michigan. All other old folks homes and childrens homes, established by other organizations, have been patterned after the first Odd Fellows Home.

ORGANIZED YOUTH CAMP

* California Odd Fellow-Rebekah Youth Camp is in the process of being developed into one of the finest organized youth camps in the state. Located in Tuolomne County, this youth camp will provide for more than 200 young people at one time. It will be available to all worthy youth.

* Throughout the United States and Canada there are several dozen youth camps sponsored by Odd Fellowship, and the California camp is being patterned after camps in other states.


MILLIONS TO CHARITY

* Odd Fellows and Rebekahs around the Globe spend approximately 700 million dollars to charity each year.

* California Odd Fellows and Rebekahs have collected and donated more than one million dollars to the California Heart Association during the past three years as a state-wide project. Half a million dollars has been donated to the March-of-Dimes by our Order for research purposes.

* The Tournament of Roses Parade at Pasadena on New Years Day included an Odd Fellows and Rebekahs entry which has received the First Place Award for at least two years in a row!


COMMUNITY SERVICE

* Community Service activities are sponsored by thousands of Odd Fellow and Rebakah lodges throughout the world. Several lodges sponsor Little League or other youth baseball teams. Boy and Girl Scout Troops, soap box racers, junior rifle teams, tean-age dancing clubs, Junior Odd Fellows Lodges, Outreach programs, Theta Rho Girl's Clubs, etc.

* Some $250,000 was raised by membership in California to construct the Occupational Therapy Unit at the State Veterans Home at Yountville, as a memorial to all Odd Fellows and Rebekahs having lost their lives during the two World Wars. It was the largest single gift to any State Agency.


BUILDING DEDICATIONS

* Odd Fellowship being active and interested in community affairs, has been stressing a program of dedicating public schools and other public buildings.

* The organized program of "Middle League Baseball" was founded and first established by the Odd Fellows of Santa Maria, California. The rapidly growing program is spreading from coast to coast after its small beginning.


UNKNOWN SOLDIER HONORED

* Odd Fellowship conducts a Pilgrimage each year to the tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Arlington, Virginia, where, in the Trophy Room, hangs our highest Jewel of Merit, the Grand Decoration of Chivalry, bestowed upon the Unknown Soldier by permission of the Federal Government. We are the only non-military organization given the honor of bestowing an award upon the Unknown Soldier.


WORLD EYE BANK and VISUAL RESEARCH FOUNDATION

* The Odd Fellows World Eye Bank and Visual Research Foundation was adopted as an Odd Fellows-Rebekah humanitarian Program in 1956, and it continues to support and provide funds for visual research through its agreement with the Wilmer Institute at John Hopkins University School of Medicine.

U.N. PILGRIMAGE FOR YOUTH

* Each year, some eight hundred boys and girls from high schools of the United States, Canada, Europe and Cuba are taken on Educational Bus tours to the headquarters of the United Nations where they study its related agencies. No other organization has been granted a like privilege. Most of the students also participate in Educational Bus tours throughout North America, which includes visits to many of the historical sights along with visiting the national capitols of the United States and Canada. Odd Fellows and Rebekahs throughout North America house, feed, and entertain these young delegates.

I.O.O.F. EDUCATIONAL FOUNDATION HAS AIDED OVER 3,000 YOUNG PEOPLE

* Annually more than a quarter of a million dollars in educational loans are granted to deserving young people by the I.O.O.F. Educational Foundation. This is recognized as the first official project of the Sovereign Grand Lodge, established in 1927. Contributions are made by Odd Fellows and Rebekahs to establish a revolving trust fund, which has been responsible for assisting more than 3,000 young men and women. The maximum a student may borrow over a four year period is $15,000. Loans are also available for study in any recognized trade school such as Business College, Beauty Culture Schools, etc. The interest rate is kept as low as possible up to 4% payable each year by June 30th while in school.


REUNITED THE UNITED STATES

* The Odd Fellows were the first organization to reunite the North and South after the Civil War. In September, 1865, an invitation was extended to the Southerners to reunite our Order.

THERE ARE OTHER BRANCHES TOO

* Many who join the Odd Fellows find it so satisfying that they are happy to learn that besides being able to join the Rebekahs, they may also seek membership in the other branches of our Order.

* There is the Encampment branch whose Three Degrees teach sublime and useful lessons; and there's the Canton Militants whose members are uniformed and are mustered in Cantons. The Encampment and the Canton furnish a tremendous outlet for active Odd Fellows with a yen for activity.

* The Patriarchs Militant branch of Odd Fellowship has been granted the privilege of having a regular or reserve officer of the Armed Forces of the United States as military advisor on the General Commanding and Department staffs.


HELPED FORM STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND MANY OTHER STATES

* Odd Fellowship played a very important part in establishing the State of California, Texas and many other states. Law and Order was established by our Order in many localities. Odd Fellow Lodges were the first organizations of any type in many California cities and a large number of our lodges have completed their first 100 years of service.

* The famed Stanford University was originally slated to become an Odd Fellow's institution, but our Grand Lodge turned down the offer of $20,000 from then Governor Leland Stanford to establish an Odd Fellows University as a memorial to his son.

* The first hospital in California was jointly sponsored by the Odd Fellows and the Free & Accepted Masons of Sacramento; and the first 3-story brick building in the State is the old Odd Fellows Hall at Mokelumne Hill, California.


THE PRESIDENT SELECTS OUR ORDER

* The President of the United States, through the State Department, selected the Independent Order of Odd Fellows to organize the "People to People Commitee" for all Fraternal Organizations. We received this invitation because we are the largest fraternity in the world under one head.

* Our Sovereign Grand Master, the international leader of Odd Fellowship attended the Coronation of Queen Elizabeth. Our Order was the only Fraternal Order to receive such an invitation.

MANNING THE PHONES FOR WORTHY TELETHONS

* The Odd Fellows and Rebekehs have been loyal supporters of many telethons for educational television channels, the Arthritis Foundation, and many other health agencies and worthwhile causes.


INTERNATIONAL YOUTH EXCHANGE PROGRAM

* Originated in California several years ago, the International Youth Exchange Program has grown and prospered during the years until today, young people, sons and daughters of Odd Fellows and Rebekahs and members of the youth units of the Order, have visited during vacation periods and during the school years.

* Odd Fellows and Rebekah countries participating in the program have included Australia, Canada, Denmark, England, Finland, Germany, Iceland, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United States.


DOES ANYONE IMPORTANT BELONG?

* Odd Fellowship, unlike many other organizations, makes no special effort to attract "name" members. Ours is a warm, personal type of affiliation that doesn't rely on "rubbing elbows" with the famous to give us satisfaction.

* Yet, without a list being available to me, I can think of several well known men who took the same degrees in Odd Fellowship that I so proudly took. For instance: Franklin D. Roosevelt, our four-term-president; Chief Justice Earl Warren; William Jennings Bryan, the Great Commoner; Governor Goodwin J. Knight; President Warren G. Harding; Vice President Schuyler Colfax and hundreds more who have served our country.

* International Odd Fellowship claims many outstanding and prominent individuals as members including King Olav V of Norway and King Gustav of Sweden.


ADDITIONAL ACTIVITIES

* Odd Fellowship maintains many of the finest and most sacred cemeteries and mausoleums throughout the United States and Canada, valued at several million dollars, and established to be be of service to our community.

* Odd Fellows and Rebekah Recreation areas  are available to members of the fraternity, offering property for sale to construct private cabins & homes. Boating, swimming, fishing, hiking and other activities are available at three such areas, located in Sonoma, Tuolumne, and Trinity Counties.


CONCLUSION

* When you pay your dues in this Order, you are contributing to those who, through the adversities of life, now find refuge in our Homes and under our care. Yet, at the same time you are also building for yourself, assurance that you, if the need arises, can find the same refuge.

* Your membership in this Fraternity involves nothing that conflicts with your duties to your God, your country, your family, or yourself. Your membership helps continue the worthy work this Order has undertaken.


SOME PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS OF ODD FELLOWSHIP

ALABAMA: Sponsor Girl Scout Troops.

ALBERTA: Eye Clinics.

ARIZONA: Mobile Eye Clinic.

ARKANSAS: Boy Scout troops.

ATLANTIC PROVINCES: Little League.

AUSTRALIA: Planting trees in park.

BRITISH COLUMBIA: Senior citizens ambulance.

CALIFORNIA: Police Explorer Scouts, Potato peeling contest.

COLORADO: Retirement Housing programs.

CONNECTICUT: State Eye Bank.

DELAWARE: Support Hospitals in Eye Research.

DENMARK: Aid needy in Eastern Europe.

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA: Support Children's Inn.

GEORGIA: Scholorship Awards.

GERMANY: Aid to Rumanian People.

IDAHO: Community Birthday Calender.

ILLINOIS: D.A.R.E. Program, Day care facilities.

INDIANA: Nursing home, Easter egg hunt.

IOWA: Honor Law enforcement officers.

KANSAS: State Eye Bank.

KENTUCKY: Eye screening.

LOUISIANA: Holiday baskets for needy,Youth entertainment prgms.

MAINE: Community Cook Book.

MANITOBA: Sponsor school safety patrol.

MARYLAND: Health Clinic assistance.

MASSACHUSETTS: Scholorships.

MICHIGAN: Loaning Med. equiptment, Sponsor D.A.R.E. Program.

MINNESOTA : Sponsor ice fishing derby.

MISSISSIPPI: Ditty-bags for shut-ins.

MISSOURI: Establish Baseball park.

MONTANA: Sponsor Special Olympics.

NEBRASKA: Operate Highway Rest Stops.

NETHERLANDS: Camp for Disabled Children.

NEVADA: Sponsor Handicapped Boy Scouts.

NEW HAMPSHIRE: Get Acquainted Party for Newcomers.

NEW JERSEY: Sponsor Health Fair.

NEW MEXICO: Recreation Park.

NEW YORK: Camp for Children with Cancer.

NEW ZEALAND: Making Toys for the Handicapped.

NORTH CAROLINA: Truck Raffle for Arthritis.

NORWAY: I.O.O.F. Medical Research Foundation.

OHIO: Senior Citizen's Dinners.

OKLAHOMA: Salvation Army Bell Ringers.

ONTARIO: Donated Eye Surgery Machine.

OREGON: Old-Time Fiddler's Concert.

PENNSYLVANIA: Honor Police Officers.

PHILIPPINES: Mass Feeding, Clothing Donation and Free Blood Pressure Taking.

QUEBEC: Park Clean-up.

RHODE ISLAND: Support School for the Deaf Athletic Fund.

SASKATCHEWAN: Support Tiny-Tot-Centre

TENNESSE: Quarterly Police Officers Award.

TEXAS: Adopt-a-Highway Program.

VIRGINIA: Built Picnic Shelter.

WASHINGTON: Consignment Auction Sale.

WEST VIRGINIA: Establish Avenue of Flags,Extensive Youth Prgrm.

WISCONSON: Wheelchairs for Spina Bifida Youths.

WYOMING: Youth Camp.


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Posted 15 February 2010 - 04:18 PM

Lets go PF members. lets bow our heads, let us worship and kneel and yield to the greatest, the oldest, the biggest, and the most wonderful fraternity that ever existed in the face of the earth. the international order of the Odd fellows, IOOF.

Oh great IOOF, we praise you, we are not worthy... you are so great. IOOF the best
Long live, Mabuhay, Arriba IOOF. IOOF, THE GREATEST FRATERNITY OF ALL TIME. THEY ARE NUMBER ONE. NUMERO UNO

IOOF IS BEST, MAS BEST PA SA MAMA SITA'S BEST... BLAKE SARMIENTO POST MORE ABOUT THE SUPER BETTER BEST NA FRATERNITY IOOF.  

Maraming salamat po!

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 04:37 PM

Let us bow, yield and kneel in front of the greatest, the largest, biggest and oldest fraternity in the world, IOOF.
This fraternity is the best, better than Mama sita's best. They are number one of all the fraternities in the face of the earth. They are better than the skullls and bones and the masons try to imitate them.

They are so powerful and so wonderful that they control everything. They are so great, umutot lang ang member nito pwede nang gawing oxygen ng mga astronaut sa outer space. Umubo lang ang mga members nito parang lumindol na sa buong metro manila.. Long live, mabuhay, ang International Order of Odd fellows. Blake Sarmiento post ka pa about you good better best fraternity

One day pag pinakamagaling na ako sa lahat sa inyo, sasali ako sa IOOF. Pinakamahusay sa lahat IOOF.

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 03:37 PM

We are not a fraternity who call ourselves the best, supreme or greatest - we never said any of that. We do not claim that we control the world unlike other co-existent fraternities. Let us put our EGO's down. All we say is we are currently the largest 'unified' fraternity for the fact that it is the only worldwide fraternity under one Sovereign Body and that's it. Aside from that, we are just a humble fraternity who do things to help those in need without seeking publicity or praise. We do not use power and influence to break laws and protect our brothers and sisters if ever they break any law.  The fraternity was never involved in any conspiracy theory or something shady...May peace be in your minds...FLT
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Posted 19 February 2010 - 03:50 PM

Greetings!

We did not claim that we are the best, greatest or the better fraternity. Those things were posted as a profile of the fraternity and it should not be interpreted that we are trying to compete with other fraternities or say we are better.  Every fraternity has its own strengths and weaknesses. These are facts of our wonderful fraternity that we are proud of same as there are also wonderful facts about your fraternity that you are proud of. The only thing we said is we are the largest unified fraternity which is a true fact. Aside from that, we are just a fraternity who love to help those in need without seeking publicity or praise.  Also, we do not use power or influence to break laws or protect our brothers and sisters if they break any law. We were never involved in any conspiracy theory, never published books to make claims, etc. We never complained if other fraternities post some facts about their fratenity, instead, we praise them. I do not know why such reaction. Sometimes we need to learn to mind our own business.

May peace and respect be in your mind. FLT

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 04:03 AM

Sir Louie,

Question lang at curious din ako - when you say that the IOOF is a unified fraternity, are the Rebekahs able to attend the meetings of the Odd fellows, and vice versa?  Or is the term "unified" being used because all these organizations, auxiliary included, are under a single governing body?

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 01:23 PM

Greetings, Peace to you all...

I take everything back.  i LOVE IOOF. i LOVE YOU too Louie Blake Sarmiento! Pa kiss nga. hahaha

Malamang nga kaya pinost mo yung brief history  kuno pero long history naman dahil mahaba eh medyo nahihirapan kayo mag recruit kung nasan man kayo. Oo nga naman magandang pang akit yong mga words mo like UNIFIED.. HAHA

Dapat kasi hindi puro kayabangan para maka recruit kayo jan. Magyayabaang ka kasi puro based sa naririnig mo at nababasa mo lang sa internet at wala ka naman first hand na experience..  Sabi ng nila "sounds good in theory ka lang. zhirap kasi sayo brod, may nakasama ka lang na American jan sa Siliman feeling pogi ka na rin haha...At hindi kawalan sa DEMOLAY ang iyong pag alis.. Hindi kailangan doon ng kunyari wanted to make change pero gusto lang magpasikat.
I am not anti IOOF, I am anti Blake Sarmiento na isang HUWAD na fratman...

Again I come in PEACE..... or not.. wahahaha


OK Admin, give me the warning points for the use of provocative words, I believe i earned it! hehe

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 09:53 PM

QUOTE (Louie Blake Sarmiento @ Feb 19 2010, 07:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We are not a fraternity who call ourselves the best, supreme or greatest - we never said any of that. We do not claim that we control the world unlike other co-existent fraternities. Let us put our EGO's down. All we say is we are currently the largest 'unified' fraternity for the fact that it is the only worldwide fraternity under one Sovereign Body and that's it. Aside from that, we are just a humble fraternity who do things to help those in need without seeking publicity or praise. We do not use power and influence to break laws and protect our brothers and sisters if ever they break any law.  The fraternity was never involved in any conspiracy theory or something shady...May peace be in your minds...FLT


Boss Louie,

Tanong ko lang po, sino po ang pinapatungkulan niyo dun sa mga bolded lines sa taas?

Pangalawa at huling tanong, bakit wala nang mason na nagmimyembro sa inyo ngayon? O baka naman wala lang akong kilala. Pakisabi naman ng pangalan ng mga mason na miyembro ninyo ngayon kung meron man.

Regards,

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 10:14 PM

Welcome back, Craftsman!  Mukhang pasulpot-sulpot ka na lang ngayon dito bro ah.

Oo nga, matagal ko nang gustong itanong yang tungkol sa mga naka-bold na statements.  Hindi siguro "wala lang" ang dapat isagot dito at mukhang may pinapatungkulan ang mga salitang yan.

Brod Craftsman - ibig mo bang sabihin sa pangalawa't huling tanong mo ay kung may Odd Fellow na Mason dito sa Pilipinas, or pati ba sa ibang bansa?
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Posted 26 February 2010 - 09:38 PM

QUOTE (Buknoy @ Feb 25 2010, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Welcome back, Craftsman!  Mukhang pasulpot-sulpot ka na lang ngayon dito bro ah.

Oo nga, matagal ko nang gustong itanong yang tungkol sa mga naka-bold na statements.  Hindi siguro "wala lang" ang dapat isagot dito at mukhang may pinapatungkulan ang mga salitang yan.

Brod Craftsman - ibig mo bang sabihin sa pangalawa't huling tanong mo ay kung may Odd Fellow na Mason dito sa Pilipinas, or pati ba sa ibang bansa?


Busy lang, Kuyang.

Sa Pilipinas ang tinutukoy ko, pero pwede na rin sa labas. Kasi nga, Kuyang, di ba dati may mga naipapakita na odd fellows/freemasons mga mahahalagang personahe pa sa kasaysayan. Pero ngayon bakit wala na? O baka naman may kilala si sir Louie, eh di maitatama ang mali kong akala.

Eto pa nga pala, yun bang mga freemasons na odd fellows din nung unang panahon, naging mason ba muna bago sila bago naging odd o vice-versa? Kung naging odd fellows muna bago naging mason, nanatili ba sila sa odd fellows?

Yun lang muna. Be well po!

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 07:16 PM

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Sir Buknoy,

The Odd fellows accept both men and women and is the main lodge where most members are expected to be active. Others are branches: Rebekahs- allows women to freely preside meetings, it was formed during the time when fraternalism was still segregated. The other branch is the Encampment, higher degree with different regalia and ritual ceremonies. The last branch is the Patriarchs Militants and Ladies Auxialiary Patriarchs Militants - this is the uniformed branch of the I.O.O.F and is merely for display - members here have swords and wear military uniform merely for enjoyment and maybe self-interest in militarism. But to be members of these branches, one must be an active member of the Odd Fellows lodge.

And yes, everything is under the Sovereign Grand Lodge.

Greetings in respect and peace,

FLT

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 07:27 PM

[quote name='Liberty 299' date='Feb 24 2010, 01:23 PM' post='17846']

Greeting Liberty,

I respect your opinion and your pre-judgment. It is because you have not met me personally and know me for who I am. Maybe I am not good in showing who really I am through writing. If I am a boastful person then I wouldn't have gained many respects from people and other fraternities here. In the case of the order of D, we were hated because of what we did in the past - when someone got killed. And all pressure was there. Pushing change was hard and it needed people to sacrifice themselves to show that change must be push through. And it did push through. And those who sacrificed themselves did not seek for recognition. If only you know what happened in the past, then you will understand. I do not pretend and I do stand on what I say and believe. i always walk my talk. And yes, I am happy already with my new fraternity and the changes happening in the Order of D. Actually, I.O.Of and the Order of D here had a joint activity weeks ago. Past is past and if we dwell in it then there will be no better future.

The truth lies beneath all the lies and you will only know truth when you open your mind. I hope you will edit your previous message. Sir Admin, please do not have bias in any. Let fairness be there. Maybe I have some wrongs in my tone of writing but my writing doesn't necessarily mean that's what and who I am. I'm not just good in writing.

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 07:33 PM

QUOTE (Liberty 299 @ Feb 24 2010, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Greetings, Peace to you all...

I take everything back.  i LOVE IOOF. i LOVE YOU too Louie Blake Sarmiento! Pa kiss nga. hahaha

Malamang nga kaya pinost mo yung brief history  kuno pero long history naman dahil mahaba eh medyo nahihirapan kayo mag recruit kung nasan man kayo. Oo nga naman magandang pang akit yong mga words mo like UNIFIED.. HAHA

Dapat kasi hindi puro kayabangan para maka recruit kayo jan. Magyayabaang ka kasi puro based sa naririnig mo at nababasa mo lang sa internet at wala ka naman first hand na experience..  Sabi ng nila "sounds good in theory ka lang. zhirap kasi sayo brod, may nakasama ka lang na American jan sa Siliman feeling pogi ka na rin haha...At hindi kawalan sa DEMOLAY ang iyong pag alis.. Hindi kailangan doon ng kunyari wanted to make change pero gusto lang magpasikat.
I am not anti IOOF, I am anti Blake Sarmiento na isang HUWAD na fratman...

Again I come in PEACE..... or not.. wahahaha


OK Admin, give me the warning points for the use of provocative words, I believe i earned it! hehe

Libertad (the new and improved Liberty)


Please do edit this comment.

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 10:45 PM

Huwad is just far from reality. I've been a true brother and has served my brothers and sisters in my fraternity well. If I wasn't then I wouldn't achieve what I wanted to achieve. And the best thing with it is, you do it without seeking publicity or praise - your just do it for the love of doing it. Even in the Order of D, I did my part and make some good changes but I did it not for pasikat. I wanted my chapter to become better because, indeed, our chapter at that time was in a "hot pot" in the city and mostly in the University after many incidents that occurred in the past.

There are just many types of "advocates of change". One are the "initiators", those who initiate the change and let its members realize its mistakes but cannot yet achieve full change because change is a process. It takes more time. It takes many self-sacrifices to let people realize something. Initiators usually get negative feed backs because they defy practices that were already considered "daily routines" of the fraternity and breaking that cycle isn't really easy.

The other type of "advocate of change" are the "followers", they follow what was initiated and they usually get the change wanted.

It is step by step....Whatever you think, whatever you say, please give it a benefit of a doubt... Maybe you did not understand the statement:

The word unified is an established fact shared by many Odd Fellows and even Freemasons-Odd Fellows. I know why you have negative feedback regarding the statement because you are a member of Freemasonry which claims to be the largest fraternity in the world. And yes, we admire that because indeed there are many freemasons all over the world of many forms. Freemasonry in general including Prince Hall, Mainstream, Co-Masonry, Freemasonry for men and women is the largest fraternity. However, Freemasonry from country to country is independent from each other. Freemasonry around the world is not organized by one organizing body. Each Grand Lodge is independent from each other which makes Freemasonry unique. And I respect Freemasonry. True?

In the case of Odd Fellowship, all lodges and Grand Lodges all over the world is organized by one Sovereign Grand Lodge which makes unifies every lodge in ritualism, practice, rules, laws, etc. This is why Odd Fellows use the statement "Largest Unified Fraternity" because yes, it is the only worldwide fraternal Order that is unified under one body and this is why it is also unique. I hope you now understand our point.

With respect. May you have respect for other people's opinions too.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 01:01 AM

Sir Louie,

Ilan po (approximately) ang miyembro ng IOOF -- as in yung "unified" number, pwede na.

Tenks!

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Follow-up:  Pakisagot na rin please yung tanong ni Craftsman sa itaas.  Medyo naging moderated kasi ang topic na ito kaya na-delay ang pagpopost.  Tungkol ito sa mga naisulat mo dati.  Atsaka, doon sa request mo na i-edit yung post ni Liberty, sino ang nirerequest mo mag-edit, si Liberty or ang mga Administrators, at kung papaano na rin ang gusto mong pag-edit dito, paki indicate na rin.  Again, tenks!
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 05:40 AM

mejo matagal na ako nagbbsa ng mga posting dito.  nde ko lang matiis talaga.  alam mo louie, huwad ka talaga!  tama yang sabi ni dad liberty299!  masyado ka lang ngppsikat!  unanguna, hindi naman kayo apektado na mga taga leon kilat chapter sa dumaguete dahil matagal na na mula noong may namatay sa initiation, 1980s pa iyon kaya wag mo sbhin na damay pa rin kayong mga aktib sa nangyari sa iyo.  isa pa, wala kang karapatan magsabi na mas angat kayo sa iba dahil nauna kayo at mas marami kayo na unified.  kung hindi mo intensyon magpasikat bakit kelangan mo pa sabihin lahat ito na paulit ulit?  nakakairita na rin kasi brader.  ang 2nay na pratman, hindi nagsasabing humble siya ng derechahan, ipinapakita niya ito sa pananalita niya. kaya tama ang sabi ni dad liberty, huwad ka pare.  kung may natutunan ka sa molay, wag mo na ipangalandakan na mas marame ka natutunan kaysa sa mga ibang molay kaya kawalan ka sa molay.  hindi ka namen kawalan tol.  isa pa, kung anak ka ng mason, alam ba ng tatay mo ang mga pinagsusulat mo dito, matanong ko lang?  kung ipaalam kaya naten na ipinost mo dito sa pinoyfrat yung inaakala mong password nila ma22wa pa kaya siya sa iyo?

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 02:36 PM

Sorry your highness/excellency Louie Blake Sarmiento.I didnt mean HUWAD, i meant HUBAD,hahaha.
Aba, good name yan, HUBAD NA FRATMAN. Dahil sa sobrang galing mo brod, i nonominate kita para ireplace yung nakahubad na estatwa sa UP. haha.

Anyway, you are right! I AM A FREEMASON.  I belong to the UFO. United Free and Organized Masons. We believe that the first masons were aliens from outer space. Once na na prove namin na may alien nga, mag aaply na kami ng charter para ma recognize na kami ng mainstream.
Kaya lang baka sabihin ni Blake sarmiento na nauna pa IOOF sa mga alien hhaha.

dahil masyadong magaling si mr president blake sarmiento, eto ang mga theory ko.

1. He invented christmas as well as new years
2. i think sya rin nagturo kay NOAH para gumawa ng ARk
3.Dami pa eh palagay ko isa rin sya sa mga tatlong hari nun pasko.


At ilang taon na lang, Ikaw na ang magiging PAMBANSANG BAYANI NG PILIPINAS. kaw ng papalit ky dr jose rizal. Si Gat Louie Sarmineto waahaha.  VOTE LOVUIE SARMIENTO FOR PRESIDENT!

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 03:02 AM

QUOTE (Louie Blake Sarmiento @ Feb 28 2010, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The word unified is an established fact shared by many Odd Fellows and even Freemasons-Odd Fellows. I know why you have negative feedback regarding the statement because you are a member of Freemasonry which claims to be the largest fraternity in the world.


Sir Louie,

Pakisagot po yung mga tanong ko sa itaas.

Eto nga pala nakita ko ginawa mo sa wiki answers. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_bigg...bership_numbers

Mukhang desperado ka yata, Sir. Binubuhay mo yung bangkay para ikaw buhay din.

Eto pa sabi mo sa YouTube:

"The first fraternity to reach the Philippines in 1872 during the Spanish-American war. Take note that the freemasonry that we all know today, who claims to be the first fraternity in the Philippines, only reached the Philippines in 1877. The masonry before was not connected with freemasonry today and the Filipino heroes that freemasonry claim are not members of the freemasonry that we know today. They were members of a different masonry which freemasonry that we know today considered clandestine and irregular." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GlY9XbGkYw

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 06:00 AM

Louie, can you please state as to which piece of literature indicates that Freemasonry "claims to be the first fraternity in the Philippines"?  

According to a Masonic historian, "In 1856, for example, Primera Luz Filipina, the first Masonic lodge in the Philippines, was formed by Jose Malcampo y Monge, a naval captain who subsequently became Governor General of the Philippines".  Also, your statement that "and the Filipino heroes that freemasonry claim are not members of the freemasonry that we know today."  Mind if I ask, what's the difference between these two "freemasonries".  Apart from the rites being used, what else is different?

What separates the Lodge established in 1856 apart from the Freemasonry that bang, Liberty299, Craftsman, Admin, and I practice?  Based on your answer, I may now start writing a letter to the Grand Lodge of the Philippines that they are just fooling me and I would need to resign my membership. . .
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 09:29 AM

QUOTE (Craftsman @ Feb 25 2010, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Boss Louie,

Tanong ko lang po, sino po ang pinapatungkulan niyo dun sa mga bolded lines sa taas?

Pangalawa at huling tanong, bakit wala nang mason na nagmimyembro sa inyo ngayon? O baka naman wala lang akong kilala. Pakisabi naman ng pangalan ng mga mason na miyembro ninyo ngayon kung meron man.

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Greetings! That is in reply to Mr. Liberty's message: "Let us bow, yield and kneel in front of the greatest, the largest, biggest and oldest fraternity in the world, IOOF.
This fraternity is the best, better than Mama sita's best. They are number one of all the fraternities in the face of the earth. They are better than the skullls and bones and the masons try to imitate them. They are so powerful and so wonderful that they control everything. They are so great, umutot lang ang member nito pwede nang gawing oxygen ng mga astronaut sa outer space. Umubo lang ang mga members nito parang lumindol na sa buong metro manila.. Long live, mabuhay, ang International Order of Odd fellows. Blake Sarmiento post ka pa about you good better best fraternity"


Some misinterpret our posting of the Brief Sketch of our fraternity's uniqueness and think that we are comparing and claiming to be powerful or greatest or what or we are involved in conspiracies - We are not. The sketch are just facts about our fraternity shared by our members. There are also great facts about your fraternity and other fraternities shared by your own members. We placed it in the Odd Fellows page in this forum for Odd fellows to read. We are not trying to compete here. Greetings in peace. Please end this discussion to avoid further misinterpretation. Thank you
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 09:37 AM

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mejo matagal na ako nagbbsa ng mga posting dito.  nde ko lang matiis talaga.  alam mo louie, huwad ka talaga!  tama yang sabi ni dad liberty299!  masyado ka lang ngppsikat!  unanguna, hindi naman kayo apektado na mga taga leon kilat chapter sa dumaguete dahil matagal na na mula noong may namatay sa initiation, 1980s pa iyon kaya wag mo sbhin na damay pa rin kayong mga aktib sa nangyari sa iyo.  isa pa, wala kang karapatan magsabi na mas angat kayo sa iba dahil nauna kayo at mas marami kayo na unified.  kung hindi mo intensyon magpasikat bakit kelangan mo pa sabihin lahat ito na paulit ulit?  nakakairita na rin kasi brader.  ang 2nay na pratman, hindi nagsasabing humble siya ng derechahan, ipinapakita niya ito sa pananalita niya. kaya tama ang sabi ni dad liberty, huwad ka pare.  kung may natutunan ka sa molay, wag mo na ipangalandakan na mas marame ka natutunan kaysa sa mga ibang molay kaya kawalan ka sa molay.  hindi ka namen kawalan tol.  isa pa, kung anak ka ng mason, alam ba ng tatay mo ang mga pinagsusulat mo dito, matanong ko lang?  kung ipaalam kaya naten na ipinost mo dito sa pinoyfrat yung inaakala mong password nila ma22wa pa kaya siya sa iyo?

Nung unang naging membro ako, ang aming chapter hindi halos makapasok sa lodge hall. Even if other name na lage kaming na suspend sa lodge dahil many incidents na minor lang naman pero malake na para sa ibang tao. Sa campus naman palaging pabalik2x ang incident pagnarinig ng titser ang name ng Order of D and we tried explaining that it was in the past. Still they are not recognizing the D on campus. Hindi po ako nagsabi na mas angat kami o ano dahil lahat ng fraternities my kani-kanilang uniqueness and strengths. Hindi ako ngsabi na masmay alam ako sa iba. Paano eh insultuhin ka pa naman, minsan nakakareact ka ng wala sa pag-iisip. Pasensya na kung na misinterpret nyo ang posts ko pero hindi yan patama at pagcompara. At hindi mason ang pag-uusapan dito dahil hindi ako mason at wala akong planing sumali kundi ngpost lang ako sa Odd Fellows page sa profile ng fraternity at wala ng ibang hangad. Kung ano man ang interpretasyon nyo, hindi yan ang pakay ko. Pasensya sainyo.

Written words have different interpretations kaya nga lahat ng Christiano hindi nagkakaintindihan dahil iba-iba ang interpretasyon ng mga tao.

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 09:45 AM

QUOTE (Buknoy @ Mar 3 2010, 06:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Louie, can you please state as to which piece of literature indicates that Freemasonry "claims to be the first fraternity in the Philippines"?  

According to a Masonic historian, "In 1856, for example, Primera Luz Filipina, the first Masonic lodge in the Philippines, was formed by Jose Malcampo y Monge, a naval captain who subsequently became Governor General of the Philippines".  Also, your statement that "and the Filipino heroes that freemasonry claim are not members of the freemasonry that we know today."  Mind if I ask, what's the difference between these two "freemasonries".  Apart from the rites being used, what else is different?

What separates the Lodge established in 1856 apart from the Freemasonry that bang, Liberty299, Craftsman, Admin, and I practice?  Based on your answer, I may now start writing a letter to the Grand Lodge of the Philippines that they are just fooling me and I would need to resign my membership. . .


Sir Buknoy,

I will give you some sources but not here anymore. Maybe private messages. I read this article by an American Freemason about the difference between Freemasonry of the Grand Lodge of the Philippines and Masonry of the Philippine heroes. I cannot tell you I know everything, I only write what I read and what I write doesn't mean it is correct. Like what i said, this is a forum, statements are written so that it will be discussed upon, criticized and verified. So do not think I am criticizing or comparing, I just want to hear your thoughts in a respectful manner. Same as I will answer with respect.

Really, posts here are clearly misunderstood. Freemasonry in general is the Largest fraternity in the world while the Independent order Odd Fellows is the Largest Unified Fraternity. These characteristics are unique to both. Largest fraternity is different from Largest Unified. I hope this is clear now. I am ending this discussion because it has been misinterpreted already. I greet you in peace and soon I am deleting my account here already as I think everything here is not healthy to the mind already.

I was just sharing my thoughts and you always have the right to correct me or state your thoughts too in a respectful way, same as I give respect to you. I am ending the use of this forum and will stand silent so as not to be misinterpreted.

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 09:48 AM

Sir,

gusto ko po lang na walang insulto at personalan. dahil hindi naman ako nang insulto. Open ako sa mga thoughts ng lahat kaya nga forum tawag nito - a mode where we can share thoughts in a respectful way.  :)

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 09:56 AM

QUOTE (Craftsman @ Feb 26 2010, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Busy lang, Kuyang.

Sa Pilipinas ang tinutukoy ko, pero pwede na rin sa labas. Kasi nga, Kuyang, di ba dati may mga naipapakita na odd fellows/freemasons mga mahahalagang personahe pa sa kasaysayan. Pero ngayon bakit wala na? O baka naman may kilala si sir Louie, eh di maitatama ang mali kong akala.

Eto pa nga pala, yun bang mga freemasons na odd fellows din nung unang panahon, naging mason ba muna bago sila bago naging odd o vice-versa? Kung naging odd fellows muna bago naging mason, nanatili ba sila sa odd fellows?

Yun lang muna. Be well po!

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Hindi ko po naintindihan yung first question mo. Salamat po.

Second question, it can be vice-versa. Because the two are different fraternities and governing bodies, there are freemasons who joined freemasonry first then Odd Fellows. There are Odd fellows first who joined freemasonry next. This is still very evident in the United States, Canada, Cuba and some parts in Europe. Daming freemasons na Odd Fellows at daming Odd Fellows na freemasons. They all share their thoughts about the two fraternities. In fact, one of the members who shared about freemasonry Grand Lodges all over the world are independent from each other was a freemason-Odd fellow. Many Freemason-Odd Fellow I meet on facebook use "Largest fraternity to freemasonry in general including Prince Hall, Co-Masonry, etc." and they use "Largest Unified Fraternity" when referring to I.O.O.F because every lodge and grand lodge all over the world are governed by one Sovereign Body. They are proud of their membership in both actually. I only use terms used by Odd Fellow-Freemasons in other places.

I have to end this discussion. Greetings in Peace.
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 10:03 AM

QUOTE (Louie Blake Sarmiento @ Mar 3 2010, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sir Buknoy,

I will give you some sources but not here anymore. Maybe private messages. I read this article by an American Freemason about the difference between Freemasonry of the Grand Lodge of the Philippines and Masonry of the Philippine heroes. His claim was that Freemasonry of the Grand Lodge of the Philippines is the freemasonry brought by the Americans and not the Spaniards whom they did not recognize as brothers. I will try to encode or send the link if there are some things about it on the internet.

I cannot tell you I know everything, I only write what I read and what I write doesn't mean it is correct. Like what i said, this is a forum, statements are written so that it will be discussed upon, criticized and verified. So do not think I am criticizing or comparing, I just want to hear your thoughts in a respectful manner. Same as I will answer with respect.

Really, posts here are clearly misunderstood. Freemasonry in general is the Largest fraternity in the world while the Independent order Odd Fellows is the Largest Unified Fraternity. These characteristics are unique to both. Largest fraternity is different from Largest Unified. I hope this is clear now. I am ending this discussion because it has been misinterpreted already. I greet you in peace and soon I am deleting my account here already as I think everything here is not healthy to the mind already.

I was just sharing my thoughts and you always have the right to correct me or state your thoughts too in a respectful way, same as I give respect to you. I am ending the use of this forum and will stand silent so as not to be misinterpreted. :)

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 01:50 PM

It seemed like Mr Sarmiento explained himself thoroughly on his last posts,

And I think we have to give it to the kid! Yeah, I know.

Now time to move on, and pick a fight somewhere else! haha

Lets have some peace for a change.

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 09:50 PM

Sir Louie,

Wag tayo magtanga-tangahan. Nung tinanong kita kung sino ang pinatutungkulan mo ng "bolded lines sa itaas" ay may quoted message sa itaas ng post ko at may bolded lines ang quoted message na yun. Bakit naman iminali mo yung pagsagot at sinabi mo na si Kuyang Lib ang pinatutungkulan mo? Eto ulit yung quote na yon ha with the same bolded lines:

QUOTE
We are not a fraternity who call ourselves the best, supreme or greatest - we never said any of that. We do not claim that we control the world unlike other co-existent fraternities. Let us put our EGO's down. All we say is we are currently the largest 'unified' fraternity for the fact that it is the only worldwide fraternity under one Sovereign Body and that's it. Aside from that, we are just a humble fraternity who do things to help those in need without seeking publicity or praise. We do not use power and influence to break laws and protect our brothers and sisters if ever they break any law. The fraternity was never involved in any conspiracy theory or something shady...May peace be in your minds...FLT


O ayan na ulit ha! Again, sino eksakto ang pinatutungkulan mong fraternity sa bolded lines?

Saka ano ang hindi mo naiintindihan sa tanong ko na yun bang mga odd fellows NUNG UNANG PANAHON na mga mason din, sila ba ay naging mason muna bago naging odd fellows o naging odd fellows muna bago naging mason? Ang sabi mo yung iba mason muna at yung iba odd fellows muna. Please quote your sources.

Ang pangatlong tanong ko sa'yo, may mga kilala ka ba sa KASALUKUYANG PANAHON na mason at odd fellow at the same time? Inilagan mo rin yung tanong na yun. Wala akong pakialam sa Co-Masons, AF&AM, Le Droit Humain, mga pekeng PHM, etc. hindi mga mason yan (PHM siguraduhin mong regular, mas maraming pekeng PHM). Ang tinatanong ko sa'yo ay F&AM, yung mga mason na recognized ng UGLE, the mother grand lodge of the world, tulad halimbawa ng GLP. Mag-pangalan ka ng mga mason NGAYON na odd fellows din.

Eto pa, bakit hindi ka makapag-propaganda  para sa odd fellows na hindi mo binabanggit ang freemasonry? Hanggang wiki answers nagpopost ka. Tanong mo sagot mo rin. Iginigiit mong pilit yung odd fellows sa lahat ng istorya. Sa YouTube videos mo ganun din, babanggitin mo yung freemasonry tapos ilalaglag mo.

Para kang yung napadaan lang na biglang sumisingit sa litrato ng mga nagpapalitrato. :)

Yang odd fellows halos patay nang fraternity yan, tapos sasabihin mo pinakamalaki sa buong mundo. Pinakamalaki sa buong mundo ng imahinasyon mo siguro. Saka wala nang prestige yang odd fellows, di tulad nung unang panahon. Ngayon kahit sino-sino na lang pwede nang sumali. Pero bagaman napakaluwang ng pinto, napakakonti pa rin ng membership. Pamalian mo sige.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 03:45 AM

Pareng Louie.  Alam mo, wala akong pake kung narerealize mo na wala ka talagang ingat sa pagpopost mo dito.  Ang sinasabi ko sa yo, wag na wag mo sasabihin na wala kang intention na makapanakit.  Eto ang pruweba.  Matagal ng patay na isyu ang pagkamatay ng isang kandidato sa pagka-demolay.  Nasabi ko nga na 1980s pa mula noong may nangyari na ganoon sa molay.  Ito lang ang masasabi ko, that story has been declared as something "that should never be spoken of" sa molay.  hindi kailanman ipinagmamalaki ng demolay na nangyari na yon.  Then here comes someone na nagpapakilalang dating demolay na nakahanap ng bagong prat niya ngayon na magpopost sa isang public na forum tungkol sa pagkakapatay ng isang kandidato.  Ang tunay na demolay, hindi na dapat inuungkat ang isyu na yan pare!  Ayos ka din ano pare? Ikeclaim mo na wala ka na sa demolay tapos sisiraan mo pa kami by saying na nakapatay kami!  OK ka din pare.  Tama yang ginagawa mo.  Mag-iingat ka palagi kung saan ka naglalakad at sana handa kang salbahin ng mga kapatid mo diyan sa odd fellows na yan!

#29 Louie Blake Sarmiento

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 10:10 PM

Hindi ako ng open up ng D dito my ng open up so I only answered my honest answer. Kung na misinterpret mo, pasencya. Kung nanakot ka, sayo na yun. We will stand any adversity and will continue to exist. We are not making a rival group. We are making our own group based on our interest and not because of other fraternities. Everything that happened is already a thing in the past and even Order of D and us here are already in peaceful relationship. I understand your concern because you are a member but remember tolerance - other people have different point of views. If you tend to hurt us then we cannot do anything but to protect ourselves. Topic ended already and may peace of mind be with you. FLT
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#30 Buknoy

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 10:16 PM

Teka, easy lang tayo.  Mukhang kelangan ng Catapres at Calsibloc ng ilan sa atin.  Guy of Auvergne, alam ko frustration mo at hindi na nga dapat inungkat yung isyu na iyon pero konting easy lang.  Medyo pinuhan nating ng kaunti at threatening na yung huling sentence mo bro.  Di intinuro sa DeMolay ang pagiging bayolente.  Brotherly advice lang galing sa isang kapwa DeMolay.

Sir Louie - pwedeng pakisagot po lahat ng tanong ni Craftsman.  That's the only way to pacify the people.
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