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Posted 16 December 2010 - 02:54 PM

.bago nyo husgahan ang masonry. tanungin nyo muna sarili nyo kung naniniwala kayo sa lahat ng nka sulat sa bible. tandaan nyo bakit may new teztament. kasi hindi lahat ng nasa bible ay word of god. word of man ang bible. kaya nga nirevise ung old teztament eh, pra hindi makita inconsistencies sa bible. meron nga mga pari nga mga mason eh, ang church lang gumawa ng paraan para masugpo ang mason for no great reason. Long ling my Dads! Posted Image
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Posted 22 December 2010 - 09:07 PM

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.bago nyo husgahan ang masonry. tanungin nyo muna sarili nyo kung naniniwala kayo sa lahat ng nka sulat sa bible. tandaan nyo bakit may new teztament. kasi hindi lahat ng nasa bible ay word of god. word of man ang bible. kaya nga nirevise ung old teztament eh, pra hindi makita inconsistencies sa bible. meron nga mga pari nga mga mason eh, ang church lang gumawa ng paraan para masugpo ang mason for no great reason. Long ling my Dads! Posted Image
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Posted 04 January 2011 - 09:32 PM

It seems to me that the whoever those guys from the Catholic Church are (hindi lahat), are not following what they preach.

In Luke 3:67 of The New Testament, it is stated that

"Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven."

They judged, condemned to excommunication, and have not forgiven (is there even something to forgive) the Freemasons.

There was an article that I read in the Cabletow newsletter that describes this kind of attitude as "Spiritual Diabetes" -many people just pretend to be true to their faith but do not really practice it. I think the appropriate layman's term for this is... "plastic".  :unsure:
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 10:39 AM

Fraternal greetings to all,

About stands of the catholic church through freemasons, i think its an internal issues of the higher keys of the church kung meron man.. more yet dont have any giving an attention for what the priest every masses doing their position with in connection to the masons.  The catholic churches/deocese and its main doctrine every masses is to understand the gods love and to love thy neighbors.. yun lang

Ive been in service as a volunteer in a catholic group for more years at wala pako narinig tungkol dito..

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 01:07 PM

View Postanimo, on 05 January 2011 - 10:39 AM, said:

Fraternal greetings to all,

About stands of the catholic church through freemasons, i think its an internal issues of the higher keys of the church kung meron man.. more yet dont have any giving an attention for what the priest every masses doing their position with in connection to the masons.  The catholic churches/deocese and its main doctrine every masses is to understand the gods love and to love thy neighbors.. yun lang

Ive been in service as a volunteer in a catholic group for more years at wala pako narinig tungkol dito..

Peace!

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Dear Friend, it is the order of the Pope and the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines to condemn the Freemasons into excommunication (many years ago it was actually "execution"). The Knights of Columbus was even organized to oppose Freemasonry. Some priests even speak ill of the Freemasons during their mass lectures.

Kung wala kapang nababalitaan tungkol sa pagtingin ng Catholic Church sa mga Mason, ito ay para sa iyo:

http://www.cbcpworld...pc/MASONIC1.HTM

According to the CBCP, we are a religion. The truth is, we are a Brotherhood. If we really are a religion, then the Knights of Columbus is also a religion.

According to the CBCP, we are a secret society. This is a big LOL. If we are a secret society, why do we have decals on our cars? why do we wear masonic shirts and rings for everyone to see? Why do we conduct public installation of officers? Why do we attend wreath layings for national heroes (minsan kasabay pa ng KofC)? We are not a secret society, but rather a society with secrets. Even KofC has secrets and the word "secrecy" was even whispered to my ear when I was initiated 1st degree on KofC (KofC ako dati).

Love thy neighbors by judging and condemning them? That's not the way to live a Christian life.
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 07:20 PM

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The Knights of Columbus was even organized to oppose Freemasonry.

  well, you know the history right?  ;)


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Love thy neighbors by judging and condemning them? That's not the way to live a Christian life.

Maraming dahilan kung bakit hindi tugma ang Masoneriya sa Katoliko pwede kong isa isahin dito at ating pag diskusyunan pero hindi na lang. Back read ka bro kung bakit  :)
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 10:01 PM

View Postanimo, on 05 January 2011 - 10:39 AM, said:

Fraternal greetings to all,

About stands of the catholic church through freemasons, i think its an internal issues of the higher keys of the church kung meron man.. more yet dont have any giving an attention for what the priest every masses doing their position with in connection to the masons.  The catholic churches/deocese and its main doctrine every masses is to understand the gods love and to love thy neighbors.. yun lang

Ive been in service as a volunteer in a catholic group for more years at wala pako narinig tungkol dito..

Peace!

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Sa pagkakaalam ko noong unang panahon ay matindi talaga ang pag-oppose ng catholic church sa freemasons. Nowadays, medyo tanggap na din ng simbahan ang mga mason. Well depende pa din un sa parish priest. Sa tingin ko kasi hindi na din nila alam kung ano ba talaga pinagugatan ng hidwaang ito so para sa kanila, ayos nalang. I know a Catholic priest that has a Mason friend. I know a Mason who is active on his church at wala namang problema. Pero meron namang mga pari na talagang ayaw nila sa mga Mason. May naikwento nga sakin na merong simbahan sa Batangas na may naka lagay na "Beware of Masons" eh.

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 11:05 PM

View Postfourth1922, on 05 January 2011 - 07:20 PM, said:

Maraming dahilan kung bakit hindi tugma ang Masoneriya sa Katoliko pwede kong isa isahin dito at ating pag diskusyunan pero hindi na lang. Back read ka bro kung bakit  :)

Alam ko lahat yan. Ang kinalulungkot ko lang is yung mga desisyon ng pag ekskomunikado at pag oppose sa mga Mason ay sinusunod ng mga Katoliko dahil sa utos ito ng ibang Katoliko (priests, bishops, the pope). Pero kung yung HOLY BIBLE ang susundin, hindi dapat ito nararapat (do not condemn and do not judge nakalagay sa Bible-Luke 6:37). Lumalabas tuloy na hindi na sila sumusunod sa Salita ng Diyos. Sa salita ng ibang tao (na nagkakasala din) sila sumusunod.
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Posted 06 January 2011 - 11:43 AM

Fraternal greetings to all,

According to the CBCP, we are a religion. The truth is, we are a Brotherhood. If we really are a religion, then the Knights of Columbus is also a religion.
According to the CBCP, we are a secret society. This is a big LOL. If we are a secret society, why do we have decals on our cars? Pogingpogi
– none religion kept as a secret, pakilinaw lang and enlighting you pa kaibigan at baka mis interpretation lang ito para sayo

This is not a major major issues for the CBCP, I guess kaibigan.. marami dapat pagtuunan ng pansin lalu na sa kalagayan ng tao at hindi po ito. If viewed you unfair and judging then so be it, in my case pwedeng oo or hindi sa mga impormasyon na nabasa ko pero sa ngayun internal na usapan nato ng simbahan at tingin ko part nato ng rules or regulation of the church itong mga issues about the masons.. kaya out ang kasulatan dito.

Knowing  the catholic church remain to do his obligation na ituro ang magmahalan tayo sa isat isa.. I think the church reserve and place to scale other issues in connection with the mason narin at para natatapos nato

Anyone here na mga masons; dare lang.. you should go out surveying people esp after the mass, asking them a question about “catholics and the freemasons” guaranteed you kaibigan.. No one knows para  dito..  baka mapilosopo kapa na ang isagot sayo e MASON na nagbubutas ng pader

@jed tama ka diyan kaibigan, minsan evolution na ang nagtutulak na maiba ang sitwasyon or hangad naman talaga ng simbahan ang kapayapaan sa isat isa at kung meron man mangilan ngilan nalang ang sumasakay sa issue na ito. Very interesting yung simbahan na nabanggit mo, san kaya yun.. Mapasyalan sana at makausap

@fourth1922 mabuhay ka kaibigan..

Catholics and the Freemasons; issues behind them; formidable but don’t be afraid, distinct w/ their creed but interesting.. the truth, discussing ancient issues and conferences haist napakahirap talaga

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 06:24 PM

View Postanimo, on 06 January 2011 - 11:43 AM, said:

sa ngayun internal na usapan nato ng simbahan at tingin ko part nato ng rules or regulation of the church itong mga issues about the masons.. kaya out ang kasulatan dito.

Pasensya na kaibigan pero malabo ito para sa akin. Sa tingin ko hindi mahalaga kung internal rules ito or kung anu ano pa kasi taong Kristyano din sila na dapat sumunod sa utos ng Diyos kung magpapa Kristyano talaga sila. Ibig mo bang sabihin na bastat internal rules ng simbahan pwedeng hindi sumunod? Paano kung may maglagay dun sa rules na pwedeng patayin ang mga Mason at irape ang mga asawa nila? Since nasa internal rules naman exempted na ba yun?

Contradicting kasi yung mga "internal rules" na ginagawa nila sa tamang pagiging Kristyano. Pasensya na kasi nagtataka lang ako.  ;)

Hindi ko naman sinasabing perpekto akong Kristyano at inaamin ko naman.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 04:35 AM

Good Day,

Just want to clarify,I idolize freemasonry pero totoo po bang may Doctrines of Lucifer kau??
un kc pagka2 alam ko and Im sure kila2 nyo c Albert Pike 33rd Degree freemason..

Nalilito lng..Im a Roman Catholic but gusto ko pumasok ng Mason in the future but some articles are bothering me..Some were truths also some were lies..

Thank you

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 04:50 AM

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Good Day,

Just want to clarify,I idolize freemasonry pero totoo po bang may Doctrines of Lucifer kau??
un kc pagka2 alam ko and Im sure kila2 nyo c Albert Pike 33rd Degree freemason..

Nalilito lng..Im a Roman Catholic but gusto ko pumasok ng Mason in the future but some articles are bothering me..Some were truths also some were lies..

Thank you

Uncle ko si ALbert Pike.. Huwag ka ng mag mason Epsilon baka ma excommunicate ka!!

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 05:10 AM

View PostEpsilon1961, on 07 January 2011 - 04:35 AM, said:

Good Day,

Just want to clarify,I idolize freemasonry pero totoo po bang may Doctrines of Lucifer kau??
un kc pagka2 alam ko and Im sure kila2 nyo c Albert Pike 33rd Degree freemason..

Nalilito lng..Im a Roman Catholic but gusto ko pumasok ng Mason in the future but some articles are bothering me..Some were truths also some were lies..

Thank you

Kung ikaw yung tipong tao na nababother at naniniwala sa lahat ng binabasa niya, I suggest that you already get rid of your plan of becoming a Freemason.  Walang sinumang matinong Mason ang mangungumbinse sa iyo na mali lahat yang nababasa mo para lang mahikayat kang mag-Mason.  

For all you know, baka nga totoong mga devil-worshippers ang mga Mason so tama lang yang nararamdaman mong takot.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 08:14 AM

alam mo naman ang church, science=evil. parang yung libro lang ni Dan Brown.

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Dear Friend, it is the order of the Pope and the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines to condemn the Freemasons into excommunication (many years ago it was actually "execution"). The Knights of Columbus was even organized to oppose Freemasonry. Some priests even speak ill of the Freemasons during their mass lectures.

Kung wala kapang nababalitaan tungkol sa pagtingin ng Catholic Church sa mga Mason, ito ay para sa iyo:

http://www.cbcpworld...pc/MASONIC1.HTM

According to the CBCP, we are a religion. The truth is, we are a Brotherhood. If we really are a religion, then the Knights of Columbus is also a religion.

According to the CBCP, we are a secret society. This is a big LOL. If we are a secret society, why do we have decals on our cars? why do we wear masonic shirts and rings for everyone to see? Why do we conduct public installation of officers? Why do we attend wreath layings for national heroes (minsan kasabay pa ng KofC)? We are not a secret society, but rather a society with secrets. Even KofC has secrets and the word "secrecy" was even whispered to my ear when I was initiated 1st degree on KofC (KofC ako dati).

Love thy neighbors by judging and condemning them? That's not the way to live a Christian life.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 04:40 PM

Greetings and good day,

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@pogingpogi  Actually wala pako gaano alam sa history ng church with the mason,  kung totoo nga yung pangyayari about sa mason e baka nasa patakaran nga ng simbahan na huwag muna masyado ibulgar ang mga pangyayaring ito.. yun ang opinion ko kaibigan.

If I remember base from your posting  here e na initiate karin pala sa KofC.. that’s mean isa karing katoliko, tama ba?

Kung isa kang katoliko or minsang nagging KofC ka… paano mo naisip na dumating sa punto sayo na gumawa ng rules ang katoliko at isample mo na patayin ang mga mason or mang rape kaibigan ha?! Ng mga asawa nito.. ok ka ba? Sino nagtulak sayo na maisip mo yan…

Nagrereklamo ka saming mga katoliko e parang ako ang dapat na magreklamo sayo sa pagbibigay palang ng sample mo kaibigan.. ayos kalang?

Hinay hinay lang…

Kahit yung ibang mga relihiyon diyan, patakaran nila e kahit makapatay sila ng di nila kaanib ay ok lang dahil sila raw ang maliligtas.. yun ang pananaw nila. Iba kami, iba ang doktrino ng mga katoliko kaibigan;  in new testament “mahalin mo ang panginoon ng higit sa lahat at mahalin mo ang iyong kapwa katulad ng pagmamahal sa sarili mo”

The practice of Freemasonry includes temples, altars, a moral code, worship services, vestments, feast days, a hierarchy of leadership, initiation and burial rites, and promises of eternal reward and punishment. –Kung walang katotohanan ang paratang ng CBCP sa inyong mga mason e anu to? It’s a kind of religion ito kaibigan

Nakita ko lang ito at sa tingin ko kapiraso palang ito dun sa di pagkakatugma ng simbahan at ng mga mason, kung meron man

@epsilon1961 kaibigan sana pagisipan mo muna yang hakbang mo.. conflict yan

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 12:40 AM

"The practice of Freemasonry includes temples, altars, a moral code, worship services, vestments, feast days, a hierarchy of leadership, initiation and burial rites, and promises of eternal reward and punishment."

Sagutin ko lang ito ng bahagya.

The practice of Freemasonry includes temples, altars, - Well, this one is true.  We call the edifice we meet at as temples.  Every time we meet, an altar is situated in the middle, where we place the Volume of the Sacred Law, or more commonly referred to as the Holy Bible - the same Bible you read.

a moral code - Sinong fraternity ang walang moral code dito?  Di ba sa Tau Gamma Phi, merong tenets at codes, Capital T or N or iba pang letra na isinasapuso natin at siyang nagsisilbing gabay sa atin?  

worship services - Ewan ko kung saan nanggaling ito.  Nagmimiting lang naman kami at normally mga projects like med missions ang pinag-uusapan sa Lohiya namin.  Wala pa naman akong natatandaang may pagsamba na ginagawa namin.

vestments - Nyek! Pati ba naman ito, isyu pa.  Eh ano naman ngayon kung gusto naming magsuot ng magagarbong aprons and collar jewels?

feast days - There are only two feast days that masons should celebrate, at hindi ito alam ng karamihan ng mason na kakilala ko.  The feasts of St. John the Baptist and St. John the Evangelist.  Isinecelebrate namin ito during summer at winter solstice, which are basically the days designated by the old Christian practice to celebrate these days.  So bawal bang makicelebrate din?

a hierarchy of leadership - Dito talaga ako napapatawa.  Aling organization ang walang hierarchy of leadership?  Wala bang ganito sa mga fraternities?

initiation and burial rites - Eto pa ang isang katatawanan.  Nasa PF ko isinusulat ito at lahat ng frats dito may initiation rites.  Ang Alpha Phi Omega ay may funeral rites.  Punta kayo sa isang topic kung saan may mga larawan pa nga sila nito.

and promises of eternal reward and punishment - walang ganitong pangako sa Masoneriya dahil requirement sa bawat kumakatok ang kanyang paniniwala sa Diyos at after life.  Itinatanong ito sa bawat kandidato kung naniniwala ba siya sa "immortality of the soul" o hindi.  Kung hindi, hindi siya pwedeng mag-Mason.  Wala ring nababanggit tungkol sa punishment.  Life after death lang ang itinatanong.  Hindi trabaho ng Masoneriya na ituro pa ito sa mga miyembro niya dahil responsibilidad ng relihyon niyang ituro sa kanya ito.

Ang punto ko dito at payo ko na rin sa iyo, tolski animo, hindi lahat ng nababasa mo ay totoo.  I've verified some of them sa itaas.  Now kung mas paniniwalaan mo pa rin ang una mong naisulat ay nirerespeto ko na lang iyan at mananatili ang respeto ko sa iyo bilang kaibigan at kapatid sa Kapatirang Filipino.

Kapag nagfifill out ako ng application form na kung saan itinatanong ang aking relihiyon, ang isinusulat ko ay "Roman Catholic".  Bininyagan akong Katoliko, nananatili akong Katoliko at ninanais kong mamatay bilang Katoliko.  Nung pumasok ako sa Masoneriya, ang alam ko hindi relihiyon ang pinapasok ko kasi hindi naman ako sinabihan na "Freemasonry" na ang isusulat ko under the field "Religion" sa mga application forms.  Hindi rin naman ako sinabihang huwag akong magsimba.  Hindi rin naman ako sinabihang huwag nang mangomunyon at makinig sa pari.  So hindi ko talaga maintindihan kung ano ang problema dito.

In short, walang sinasabi sa loob na bawal mo nang gawin ang ginagawa mo sa iyong relihiyon.  Ang ilang mga organized religions lang naman ang nagsasabi na bawal silang mag-mason.  The conflict of interest is just one-sided.
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 01:17 AM

View PostBuknoy, on 08 January 2011 - 12:40 AM, said:

"The practice of Freemasonry includes temples, altars, a moral code, worship services, vestments, feast days, a hierarchy of leadership, initiation and burial rites, and promises of eternal reward and punishment."

Sagutin ko lang ito ng bahagya.

The practice of Freemasonry includes temples, altars, - Well, this one is true.  We call the edifice we meet at as temples.  Every time we meet, an altar is situated in the middle, where we place the Volume of the Sacred Law, or more commonly referred to as the Holy Bible - the same Bible you read.

a moral code - Sinong fraternity ang walang moral code dito?  Di ba sa Tau Gamma Phi, merong tenets at codes, Capital T or N or iba pang letra na isinasapuso natin at siyang nagsisilbing gabay sa atin?  

worship services - Ewan ko kung saan nanggaling ito.  Nagmimiting lang naman kami at normally mga projects like med missions ang pinag-uusapan sa Lohiya namin.  Wala pa naman akong natatandaang may pagsamba na ginagawa namin.

vestments - Nyek! Pati ba naman ito, isyu pa.  Eh ano naman ngayon kung gusto naming magsuot ng magagarbong aprons and collar jewels?

feast days - There are only two feast days that masons should celebrate, at hindi ito alam ng karamihan ng mason na kakilala ko.  The feasts of St. John the Baptist and St. John the Evangelist.  Isinecelebrate namin ito during summer at winter solstice, which are basically the days designated by the old Christian practice to celebrate these days.  So bawal bang makicelebrate din?

a hierarchy of leadership - Dito talaga ako napapatawa.  Aling organization ang walang hierarchy of leadership?  Wala bang ganito sa mga fraternities?

initiation and burial rites - Eto pa ang isang katatawanan.  Nasa PF ko isinusulat ito at lahat ng frats dito may initiation rites.  Ang Alpha Phi Omega ay may funeral rites.  Punta kayo sa isang topic kung saan may mga larawan pa nga sila nito.

and promises of eternal reward and punishment - walang ganitong pangako sa Masoneriya dahil requirement sa bawat kumakatok ang kanyang paniniwala sa Diyos at after life.  Itinatanong ito sa bawat kandidato kung naniniwala ba siya sa "immortality of the soul" o hindi.  Kung hindi, hindi siya pwedeng mag-Mason.  Wala ring nababanggit tungkol sa punishment.  Life after death lang ang itinatanong.  Hindi trabaho ng Masoneriya na ituro pa ito sa mga miyembro niya dahil responsibilidad ng relihyon niyang ituro sa kanya ito.

Ang punto ko dito at payo ko na rin sa iyo, tolski animo, hindi lahat ng nababasa mo ay totoo.  I've verified some of them sa itaas.  Now kung mas paniniwalaan mo pa rin ang una mong naisulat ay nirerespeto ko na lang iyan at mananatili ang respeto ko sa iyo bilang kaibigan at kapatid sa Kapatirang Filipino.

Kapag nagfifill out ako ng application form na kung saan itinatanong ang aking relihiyon, ang isinusulat ko ay "Roman Catholic".  Bininyagan akong Katoliko, nananatili akong Katoliko at ninanais kong mamatay bilang Katoliko.  Nung pumasok ako sa Masoneriya, ang alam ko hindi relihiyon ang pinapasok ko kasi hindi naman ako sinabihan na "Freemasonry" na ang isusulat ko under the field "Religion" sa mga application forms.  Hindi rin naman ako sinabihang huwag akong magsimba.  Hindi rin naman ako sinabihang huwag nang mangomunyon at makinig sa pari.  So hindi ko talaga maintindihan kung ano ang problema dito.

In short, walang sinasabi sa loob na bawal mo nang gawin ang ginagawa mo sa iyong relihiyon.  Ang ilang mga organized religions lang naman ang nagsasabi na bawal silang mag-mason.  The conflict of interest is just one-sided.

@VW Buknoy, ang tiyaga mo rin sumagot brader! LOL.. The great thing about freemasonry is that we celebrate so many feasts etc... Not that I am complaining.. Dapat lang may pagitan para maka recover sa hang over at empacho!! Atsaka yang mga issues na yan, old news na yan. wala bang bagong akusasyon diyan.. ?? nakakaboring na rin kc minsan, nakakasawa.. Eto pala, I am going to shake your catholic sensibilities with this statement: JESUS IS A MASON!!!!

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 03:43 AM

@epsilon1961 - tama si animo. pag-isipan mo ng mabuti yan. Wala kasing pipilit sayo o mag-aanyaya sayo para maging mason. Dapat sarili mong kagustuhan yan. Ang maimumungkahi ko ay magsaliksik ka pa kung ano talaga ang Freemasonry. Kung ano man ang malaman mo or papaniwalaan mo, gamitin mo un para makapag desisyon ka ng tama kung gugustuhin mo nga sumali o hindi.

@ animo - halos lahat ng Mason dito sa PF ay katoliko. Ako'y isa ding katoliko at sa aking opinyon, wala akong nakikitang masama na Mason ako. You know why? Kasi Fraternity lang ang Freemasonry. Yes, its just an ordinary fraternity. Just like Tau Gamma Phi. Ang nakikita ko lang difference ng Freemasonry sa ibang frats e ito ay post-collegiate fraternity. Kaya para sakin, ang relihiyon ko ay Katoliko at ang fraternity ko ay sonma. Naku baka ma ex-communicate ako nyan. Well, the hell I care! Hindi naman ako sumasamba sa mga santo papa o kaya sa mga pari kundi sa ating Panginoong Hesukristo. May sinabi ba ang Diyos na bawal sumali sa Masoneriya??

Bakit nga ba ayaw ng simbahang katoliko sa mga Mason? Aba malay ko! :lol:  Sa pagkakaalam ko, nasagot na naman lahat ng sinasabi nilang dahilan kung bakit nila pinagbabawalan ang kanilang mga kaanib na sumali sa Masoneriya

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 05:02 AM

View PostBuknoy, on 07 January 2011 - 05:10 AM, said:

Kung ikaw yung tipong tao na nababother at naniniwala sa lahat ng binabasa niya, I suggest that you already get rid of your plan of becoming a Freemason.  Walang sinumang matinong Mason ang mangungumbinse sa iyo na mali lahat yang nababasa mo para lang mahikayat kang mag-Mason.  

For all you know, baka nga totoong mga devil-worshippers ang mga Mason so tama lang yang nararamdaman mong takot.


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Posted 08 January 2011 - 05:50 AM

Naalala ko tuloy yung isang kandidato na tinanong ko minsan sa harap ng ilang kapatid sa Lohiya ng "Handa ka bang talikuran ang Diyos para sa Masoneriya?"  Ang sagot niya, "Tatalikuran lang po pala eh. Syempre po."

Ayun, blackbol ang pobreng kandidato.  Tatangatanga lang eh, hindi nag-iisip kasi.  Ang magaling pa dun, hindi pa ako ang namblakbol.  Ako kaya ang reyna ng trick questions.
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 08:25 AM

View PostBuknoy, on 08 January 2011 - 05:50 AM, said:

Naalala ko tuloy yung isang kandidato na tinanong ko minsan sa harap ng ilang kapatid sa Lohiya ng "Handa ka bang talikuran ang Diyos para sa Masoneriya?"  Ang sagot niya, "Tatalikuran lang po pala eh. Syempre po."

Ayun, blackbol ang pobreng kandidato.  Tatangatanga lang eh, hindi nag-iisip kasi.  Ang magaling pa dun, hindi pa ako ang namblakbol.  Ako kaya ang reyna ng trick questions.

Ang lupit nung sagot. Hahaha! Fail!

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 09:30 AM

Greetings fellow fratman,

Ha ha haa very well said mga kaibigan.. sir buks dinitalye mo pa, wala po yun

I dont have any intention about debate sa stand ng church sa freemason.. i know medyo matagal napo tong issues nato at siguro kung magkainterest man ako dito e sa mga priest nako pumunta, marami naman ako kakilala and aside from e dati rin akon nagattempt to become a priest

Si kaibigang pogingpogi lang e parang pilit niyang pinagdidiinan sakin yung issues about the CBCPs and the freemason; his muscle flexes, wala naman po ako gaano alam dun.. hanggang sa dumating sa punto na magsample pa ng di maganda sa mga katoliko then napansin ko pa na naging KofC din pala siya he he hee grabe nopo? how come na isample niya na pumatay ng isang mason at mangrape, prupesyunal ba siya

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 10:12 AM

View PostBuknoy, on 08 January 2011 - 05:50 AM, said:

Naalala ko tuloy yung isang kandidato na tinanong ko minsan sa harap ng ilang kapatid sa Lohiya ng "Handa ka bang talikuran ang Diyos para sa Masoneriya?"  Ang sagot niya, "Tatalikuran lang po pala eh. Syempre po."

Ayun, blackbol ang pobreng kandidato.  Tatangatanga lang eh, hindi nag-iisip kasi.  Ang magaling pa dun, hindi pa ako ang namblakbol.  Ako kaya ang reyna ng trick questions.

brodad baka akala nya e literal na tatalikod lang.hahaha...
pero natatawa ko sa sagot nya parang proud na proud sya e. :lol: :lol:
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 11:24 PM

View PostLiberty 299, on 08 January 2011 - 01:17 AM, said:

@VW Buknoy, ang tiyaga mo rin sumagot brader! LOL.. The great thing about freemasonry is that we celebrate so many feasts etc... Not that I am complaining.. Dapat lang may pagitan para maka recover sa hang over at empacho!! Atsaka yang mga issues na yan, old news na yan. wala bang bagong akusasyon diyan.. ?? nakakaboring na rin kc minsan, nakakasawa.. Eto pala, I am going to shake your catholic sensibilities with this statement: JESUS IS A MASON!!!!

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 03:02 PM

@VW Buknoy, ang tiyaga mo rin sumagot brader! LOL.. The great thing about freemasonry is that we celebrate so many feasts etc... Not that I am complaining.. Dapat lang may pagitan para maka recover sa hang over at empacho!! Atsaka yang mga issues na yan, old news na yan. wala bang bagong akusasyon diyan.. ?? nakakaboring na rin kc minsan, nakakasawa.. Eto pala, I am going to shake your catholic sensibilities with this statement: JESUS IS A MASON!!!!- lib299

Greetings fellow fratman,

JESUS IS A MASON?! he he hee iba ka talaga kaibigang lib... napansin ko nga

Ok.. to all mason catholics dito; im sorry pero may tanung lang ako, Anu na ang stands niyo tungkol sa issue ng simbahan at ng mga mason.. anu ang matimbang sa inyo pananampalataya o kapatiran kung sakali man. Thanks ang regards

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:51 PM

may nabasa kong ganang rumor na mason nga daw si jesus... stone mason daw kasi carpintero din si hesus diba?
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 05:43 PM

Ayon sa discovery channel, stone masons nga daw sila ng tatay niya.

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 07:48 PM

Lord Jesus Christ is a member of a brotherhood, Called Essenes, and so was a Great Mason Professor I have in College also,
claiming that Jesus Might indeed be.  In the Kaballistic PoV, We should seek the light of the Creator and bring the Light in our selves and Shed/Share the Light in our neighbors.  and a Kaballistic Student, Kaballah is the main Wisdom in Freemasonry.  So I remember the Time when I was Baptized and Became a Born Again Christian, and talk to our Head Pastor about Freemasonry, The Great Pastor said : " Ang mga Mason ay masama. Umiwas ka o lumayo sa mga yun."
And I was surprised, cause I have a great Respect for the Pastor, yet his remarks with Freemasonry is a total blunder, and It fuel my imagination to know more about Freemasonry, with the questions starting why why why?  and with regards with who's who, and might aswell bring this one up,  there are 2 Jesus in the Bible ,

According to the United Bible Societies' text, Matthew 27:17 reads: ". . .whom will ye that I release unto you? Jesus Barabbas [Greek: Iesous ton Barabbas] or Jesus which is called Christ [Greek: Iesous ton legomenon Christon]?".

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 09:35 PM

View Postanimo, on 09 January 2011 - 03:02 PM, said:

Ok.. to all mason catholics dito; im sorry pero may tanung lang ako, Anu na ang stands niyo tungkol sa issue ng simbahan at ng mga mason.. anu ang matimbang sa inyo pananampalataya o kapatiran kung sakali man. Thanks ang regards

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As I answer this question, I'm just speaking for myself and not for the others.  Mas matimbang ang pananampalataya para sa akin kaysa kahit anong kapatiran.  Kung ano ang sabihin ng Diyos sa akin, yun ang gagawin ko.  Kung sabihin ng Diyos na talikuran ko ang Masoneriya, without blinking an eye, gagawin ko ito nang walang pagsisisi.

I guess we just have different concepts of faith (pananampalataya).  Obviously, hindi on and the same ang pagtrato ko samga  salitang "pananampalataya" at "relihyon".  Matibay ang pananampalataya ko sa Diyos but I could not say the same about some of human beings who wear religious vestments.
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