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Posted 25 June 2011 - 06:18 PM

At first glance i thought it was the name of the latest incarnation of the UP IFC. Turns out that despite its encompassing sounding name, it is only an alliance of a handful of minor UP Fraternities in Diliman namely EMC2, Gamma Sigma Pi, Sigma Kappa Pi, Pi Omicron and Pi Sigma. These fraternities historically have been linked with leftist student political groups like SAMASA and its later incarnations and splinter groups. I am surprised not to see Alpha Sigma with them.

Any UP fratman care to comment on the true nature of this alliance? Is this the new IFC in diliman? merely just a political machinery? or an ASTIG (the APO, Tau Alpha, Sigma Rho Triumvirate) clone of somesort?

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Posted 17 July 2011 - 12:56 AM

There was another Fraternity Alliance (or Frat-Al) in Diliman in the mid-80s.  It did not count among its ranks all fraternities.  But it had most (even some previously warring groups).  And it was an alliance for war (rumble purposes) against the fraternities who do not belong to the alliance.

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Posted 17 July 2011 - 09:24 AM

at Red Lion, ano pangalan at ano anong fraternities and involved?

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Posted 17 July 2011 - 03:01 PM

I am not quite sure, Mr Admin. I was not personally there. Maybe, in the spirit of reminiscing the good old days, we may have PF members who happen to be UP Diliman fratmen in the mid-80s. And maybe they can confirm and shed light.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 03:25 PM

View PostAdmin, on 17 July 2011 - 09:24 AM, said:

at Red Lion, ano pangalan at ano anong fraternities and involved?

not sure about the exact year, it's either 1981 or 1982. Inter-Fraternity Solidarity, or simply "I.F.S.". (APO, BETA SIGMA and TAU GAMMA PHI). Then they also formed the "Barkadahan ng mga Fratmen na pa-golf-golf. (APO, BETA SIGMA, TAU GAMMA PHI, UPSILON SIGMA PHI, I'm not sure about the other Fraternities who joined the said group.

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Posted 24 July 2011 - 10:40 AM

pinaka marami ang emc2 sa engineering ngayon. sa bagay, pag UP fair lang naman nararamdaman ang engg frats.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 07:53 AM

ano ano ba ang eng'g frats meron sa UP Diliman?

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 11:21 PM

If my memory serves me correctly:

Beta Epsilon, Tau Alpha, Gamma Sigma Pi, EMC2, Epsilon Chi

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 10:22 AM

The Frat Al has been in existence since the 1980's.  Many other fraternities used to be a part of this Alliance but have broken away in the past years.  

Speaking as one who was formerly active within, it is true that the Frat Al existed partly to support SAMASA, however this was not the only reason for its existence.  We also supported and advocated many causes for the studentry and society in general.

It is a pity that we are being linked with supposedly "leftist" groups, but that is not an accurate "label" for us.  We were just a student group with ideals and goals, like any other organization.  I should emphasize that our association, unlike others mentioned, was not social in nature.  It was a blending of fraternities with similar ideals.

View PostAdmin, on 25 June 2011 - 06:18 PM, said:

At first glance i thought it was the name of the latest incarnation of the UP IFC. Turns out that despite its encompassing sounding name, it is only an alliance of a handful of minor UP Fraternities in Diliman namely EMC2, Gamma Sigma Pi, Sigma Kappa Pi, Pi Omicron and Pi Sigma. These fraternities historically have been linked with leftist student political groups like SAMASA and its later incarnations and splinter groups. I am surprised not to see Alpha Sigma with them.

Any UP fratman care to comment on the true nature of this alliance? Is this the new IFC in diliman? merely just a political machinery? or an ASTIG (the APO, Tau Alpha, Sigma Rho Triumvirate) clone of somesort?

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 12:41 PM

Hi Glimmer, what other frats were part of this alliance originally?

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 01:00 PM

View PostAdmin, on 22 August 2011 - 12:41 PM, said:

Hi Glimmer, what other frats were part of this alliance originally?

Hi, if memory serves me right, there was a time when Alpha Sigma, Scintilla Juris and Epsilon Chi were part of the Frat-Al. I'm sure there are others but I can't recall.

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 06:21 PM

So basically, all the frats that used to belong with the original Samasa before the samasa-tmma (which is now stand up) split?

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 09:47 AM

View PostAdmin, on 22 August 2011 - 06:21 PM, said:

So basically, all the frats that used to belong with the original Samasa before the samasa-tmma (which is now stand up) split?

Yes, I believe so...

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 02:51 PM

I said:

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once you a frat started joining an alliance,
there would be nothing that frat
can still be proud of.

Joining an alliance means
a frat can't support its self-sufficiency.

Geez.

View PostKababayan, on 17 October 2011 - 08:44 PM, said:

Maybe you are only pertaining to an alliance when it comes to frat war, rumble and violence! there are a lot of different alliances between fraternities! may it be tree planting, feeding program, blood letting, etc etc. the list is endless and the services are all exemplary.

same.
Can't you host or organize the same events
without the other fraternities?
"Self-Sufficiency"

Plato said,
A society was made because
man is not self sufficient
in his living.

And each frat
is a society.
So why do you still need others
to live?
Is it because "your"
frat is not self-sufficient?
(or maybe because I am
only referring to true frats)
If you
can't study in a University...
how dare you to join a frat
and exclude yourself from "barbarians"?


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Posted 18 October 2011 - 03:20 PM

To each his own.  I say that the true spirit of a brotherhood lies in its ability to carry on diplomatic relations and perform activities in tandem with other civilized societies.  To think that you are elite and can stand alone is the biggest delusion a Fraternity can tell its members.  Because in real life you are not, and it is your Fraternity's responsibility to train you for a real life, not an imaginary grandiose one.

View PostAnti-Barbarian, on 18 October 2011 - 02:51 PM, said:

I said:





same.
Can't you host or organize the same events
without the other fraternities?
"Self-Sufficiency"

Plato said,
A society was made because
man is not self sufficient
in his living.

And each frat
is a society.
So why do you still need others
to live?
Is it because "your"
frat is not self-sufficient?
(or maybe because I am
only referring to true frats)


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View Postglimmer, on 18 October 2011 - 03:20 PM, said:

To each his own.  I say that the true spirit of a brotherhood lies in its ability to carry on diplomatic relations and perform activities in tandem with other civilized societies.  To think that you are elite and can stand alone is the biggest delusion a Fraternity can tell its members.  Because in real life you are not, and it is your Fraternity's responsibility to train you for a real life, not an imaginary grandiose one.

Like.

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 08:09 PM

View PostKababayan, on 18 October 2011 - 07:26 PM, said:

My friend do remember that no man is an island. we do need to interact. are you a frat-man Anti-Barbarian? If so is your fraternity/organization anti-social? because by the looks of your post you despise interactions with other Greek lettered fraternities/organization. though your fraternity is self-sufficient they still reach out to other fraternities in the spirit of brotherhood, camaraderie and friendship. if the fraternity/organization you belong to does not condone interactions then my friend www.pinoyfraternity.com is not the place for you to mingle. because the purpose of the site is to unite fraternities/sororities/organization to one another and not divide them.

One more thing i am not a frat-man YET, soon i will be! But i do know how with each others help we can have a peaceful society in which a frat-man can live side by side with a fellow frat-man even if they have different fraternities. If your fraternity is pure and true then my apologies. maybe your frat is so perfect and well established that even if God comes down from the heaven he would want to join your group. Just my two pennies! :)

1. My friend do remember that no man is an island. we do need to interact.
Yes, MEN interact.
But not fraternities.
Don't compare a creature
to an idea.
Don't personify
fraternities.
A Fraternity is an idea
built by principles.
You can kill a man
but you can never erase
an idea.
And the self sufficiency of
each idea, determine how great
they are.
That is why,
The idea of Newton's Laws can't be erase
in our books because
it is self-sufficient
Newton's Laws don't need to build alliance to
theories from Stephen Hawking, Albert Einstein
or others
because his
idea is self sufficient.

2. are you a frat-man Anti-Barbarian?
Yes i am.

3. if the fraternity/organization you belong to does not condone interactions then my friend www.pinoyfraternity.com is not the place for you to mingle. because the purpose of the site is to unite fraternities/sororities/organization to one another and not divide them.
Personalan na ba to?
Pinapalayas mo ako?
O sige on topic:
Maaaring magkaiba lang tayo ng notion of unity.
Pero kung ang notion mo ng unity
ay magpalayas ng isang tao na hindi mo kapareho ng paniniwala
o sige i consider natin yun.
Pero isipin mo,
bakit maraming frat?
Siyempre, dahil ang bawat isa ay may kanya-kanyang paniniwala o principle
samakatuwid, ang bawat isa ay mag kakaiba ng paniniwala,
eh di kung magkakapareho ng principles ang bawat frat, eh di sana
iisang frat na lang pinasukan natng lahat.
So, i-apply mo ngayun mo ngayun yung paniniwala mo ng unity dito.
Palalayasin mo rin ba ang ibang fratman na iba ang paniniwala?

View Postglimmer, on 18 October 2011 - 03:20 PM, said:

To each his own.  I say that the true spirit of a brotherhood lies in its ability to carry on diplomatic relations and perform activities in tandem with other civilized societies.  To think that you are elite and can stand alone is the biggest delusion a Fraternity can tell its members.  Because in real life you are not, and it is your Fraternity's responsibility to train you for a real life, not an imaginary grandiose one.
1. I say that the true spirit of a brotherhood lies in its ability to carry on diplomatic relations
Some of it, yes.

2. ...and perform activities in tandem with other civilized societies
Common man, that's too much.
Do it on your own.
You are groups of people capable of
providing service
yet you will all still relay
on others.
You should have all just joined in one fraternity.
If you
can't study in a University...
how dare you to join a frat
and exclude yourself from "barbarians"?


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Posted 18 October 2011 - 08:17 PM

View PostAnti-Barbarian, on 18 October 2011 - 08:09 PM, said:

1. My friend do remember that no man is an island. we do need to interact.
Yes, MEN interact.
But not fraternities.
Don't compare a creature
to an idea.
Don't personify
fraternities.
A Fraternity is an idea
built by principles.
You can kill a man
but you can never erase
an idea.
And the self sufficiency of
each idea, determine how great
they are.
That is why,
The idea of Newton's Laws can't be erase
in our books because
it is self-sufficient
Newton's Laws don't need to build alliance to
theories from Stephen Hawking, Albert Einstein
or others
because his
idea is self sufficient.

2. are you a frat-man Anti-Barbarian?
Yes i am.

3. if the fraternity/organization you belong to does not condone interactions then my friend www.pinoyfraternity.com is not the place for you to mingle. because the purpose of the site is to unite fraternities/sororities/organization to one another and not divide them.
Personalan na ba to?
Pinapalayas mo ako?
O sige on topic:
Maaaring magkaiba lang tayo ng notion of unity.
Pero kung ang notion mo ng unity
ay magpalayas ng isang tao na hindi mo kapareho ng paniniwala
o sige i consider natin yun.
Pero isipin mo,
bakit maraming frat?
Siyempre, dahil ang bawat isa ay may kanya-kanyang paniniwala o principle
samakatuwid, ang bawat isa ay mag kakaiba ng paniniwala,
eh di kung magkakapareho ng principles ang bawat frat, eh di sana
iisang frat na lang pinasukan natng lahat.
So, i-apply mo ngayun mo ngayun yung paniniwala mo ng unity dito.
Palalayasin mo rin ba ang ibang fratman na iba ang paniniwala?


1. I say that the true spirit of a brotherhood lies in its ability to carry on diplomatic relations
Some of it, yes.

2. ...and perform activities in tandem with other civilized societies
Common man, that's too much.
Do it on your own.
You are groups of people capable of
providing service
yet you will all still relay
on others.
You should have all just joined in one fraternity.

kabayan hindi kita pinalalayas, tao kang pumasok dito at tao kang tatanggapin ng mga frat-men dito. Ang sinasabi ko kung para sa iyo hindi ok ang makisama sa iba then hindi ito ang proboards na para sa iyo. maraming frat-men dito ang ikinakasaya ang pakikipagtulungan sa kapwa pratman kahit iba-iba silang prat. ang advice ko sayo kabayan try mo makihalubilo sa ibang prat tapos mag community service kayo masarap sa pakiramdam! ako nga walang prat nag enjoy ng todo tumulong sa kapwa. try mo lang. he he hePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 08:54 PM

View PostKababayan, on 18 October 2011 - 08:17 PM, said:

kabayan hindi kita pinalalayas, tao kang pumasok dito at tao kang tatanggapin ng mga frat-men dito. Ang sinasabi ko kung para sa iyo hindi ok ang makisama sa iba then hindi ito ang proboards na para sa iyo. maraming frat-men dito ang ikinakasaya ang pakikipagtulungan sa kapwa pratman kahit iba-iba silang prat. ang advice ko sayo kabayan try mo makihalubilo sa ibang prat tapos mag community service kayo masarap sa pakiramdam! ako nga walang prat nag enjoy ng todo tumulong sa kapwa. try mo lang. he he hePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image

Nakikipag-usap naman
ako ng maayos sa
bawat sa sa nyo
tol eh.
I search mo man
ang bawat posts ko sa forum
na to.
Sa tingin ko nag re-reply naman
ako sa pinaka rasyonal na paraan.

BTW, off topic na yun. Baka i-close na naman ni Admin ang thread na to tulad ng iba pang threads.

ON TOPIC: Ang punto ko, hindi dapat pumapasok
sa alyansa ang mga frat.


Una, dahil masamang ideya ang umasa sa
ibang frat para isulong ang iisang proyekto.

Pangalawa, mas mainam pang bawat isang frat
gumawa ng sarili nilang proyekto
at dahil dun, mas dadami pa ang mga proyekto sa
komunidad. Hndi yung lahat sama sama para sa isang
proyekto.

Pangatlo, hndi ma te-train ng maayos ang bawat brod
upang maging social worker and leader kung maraming
maaaring pag pasahan ng gawain.

Pang-apat, nawawalan ng identity ang mga frat na
kasali sa alyansa. Dahil sa bawat pag-unlad nila
ang alyansa ang umaasenso. Hindi mo sasabihing,
ang galing ng "frat", kundi ang galing naman
ng alyansang "X"

Panglima, lalong lalakas ang military force ng
bawat fraternity. Dahil ang nakabanggang fraternity
ay may alyansa, kakailanganin mo ring sumali sa alyansa
upang hindi matalo sa digmaan.

Panganim, Dahil malakas ang military force, lalong hindi
iisipn ng bawat frat ng bawat alyansa na makipag truce.
Siyempre, may alyansa na kayo mag ba-back out pa kayo.
Lalong tataas ang stake, dahil mas maramng frat ang masasabhang
duwag kapag nag back out ang isang buong alyansa. At ano ang mangyayari
kapag nangyari yun?

Pang-anim, magiging mas bayolente ang mga digmaan,
mas maraming sangkot, mas matagal ang digmaan.

At marami pang iba...

Simple, lang naman kase ang frat, huwag nyong gawng kumplekado, gawin
nyo ang dapat niyong gawin.


Iyon ang punto ko.
If you
can't study in a University...
how dare you to join a frat
and exclude yourself from "barbarians"?


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Posted 18 October 2011 - 09:05 PM

View PostAnti-Barbarian, on 18 October 2011 - 08:54 PM, said:

Nakikipag-usap naman
ako ng maayos sa
bawat sa sa nyo
tol eh.
I search mo man
ang bawat posts ko sa forum
na to.
Sa tingin ko nag re-reply naman
ako sa pinaka rasyonal na paraan.

BTW, off topic na yun. Baka i-close na naman ni Admin ang thread na to tulad ng iba pang threads.

ON TOPIC: Ang punto ko, hindi dapat pumapasok
sa alyansa ang mga frat.


Una, dahil masamang ideya ang umasa sa
ibang frat para isulong ang iisang proyekto.



- kabayan hindi sa umaasa ka, nakikipagtulungan lang kabayan


Pangalawa, mas mainam pang bawat isang frat
gumawa ng sarili nilang proyekto
at dahil dun, mas dadami pa ang mga proyekto sa
komunidad. Hndi yung lahat sama sama para sa isang
proyekto.


- may ibang proyekto kabayan na masarap pagtulungan, yung joint service projects mainam yun sa bayan! :)


Pangatlo, hndi ma te-train ng maayos ang bawat brod
upang maging social worker and leader kung maraming
maaaring pag pasahan ng gawain.


- ang alam ko kasi pumasok ka ng prat ibig saihin mature enough ka na for the purpose


Pang-apat, nawawalan ng identity ang mga frat na
kasali sa alyansa. Dahil sa bawat pag-unlad nila
ang alyansa ang umaasenso. Hindi mo sasabihing,
ang galing ng "frat", kundi ang galing naman
ng alyansang "X"


- mali kabayan, masasambit ng mga tao na magaling pala ang mga prat na a at b :)


Panglima, lalong lalakas ang military force ng
bawat fraternity. Dahil ang nakabanggang fraternity
ay may alyansa, kakailanganin mo ring sumali sa alyansa
upang hindi matalo sa digmaan.


- kung matino naman mag isip mga frat hindi na aabot sa ganyan kabayan. :)


Panganim, Dahil malakas ang military force, lalong hindi
iisipn ng bawat frat ng bawat alyansa na makipag truce.
Siyempre, may alyansa na kayo mag ba-back out pa kayo.
Lalong tataas ang stake, dahil mas maramng frat ang masasabhang
duwag kapag nag back out ang isang buong alyansa. At ano ang mangyayari
kapag nangyari yun?


- same answer sa pang lima


Pang-anim, magiging mas bayolente ang mga digmaan,
mas maraming sangkot, mas matagal ang digmaan.

At marami pang iba...


- same answer sa pang lima


Simple, lang naman kase ang frat, huwag nyong gawng kumplekado, gawin
nyo ang dapat niyong gawin.


Iyon ang punto ko.

sabi nga ni Admin "Unity through Diversity!" yun lang din punto ko :)
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 10:02 PM

most alliances are political in nature or pa fellowship-fellowship lang. bihira ang solid alliances talaga na sinasabi mo anti. only magic 5 comes to mind.

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Posted 19 October 2011 - 12:02 AM

View PostKababayan, on 18 October 2011 - 09:05 PM, said:

sabi nga ni Admin "Unity through Diversity!" yun lang din punto ko :)

Of course, there can be unity in diverse creatures.
But i told you fraternities are not creatures.
They are ideas.
If you unite ideas, you would come up to a new idea
which is totally different to the each original ideas.
The whole is not equal to the sum of its parts.

View PostAdmin, on 18 October 2011 - 10:02 PM, said:

most alliances are political in nature or pa fellowship-fellowship lang. bihira ang solid alliances talaga na sinasabi mo anti. only magic 5 comes to mind.

Solid or non-solid.
For public or not.
For political or whatever.
They are bargaining the fraternity
and constricting it to a
sovereign.
You must not restrict fraternities,
so that they can breathe and grow.(personification here)
If you
can't study in a University...
how dare you to join a frat
and exclude yourself from "barbarians"?


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Posted 19 October 2011 - 09:11 AM

I agree that Fraternities are ideas (actually a set of ideals).  It does not follow however that unity among frats is equal to a new idea. Just like nations, we unite to promote peace and universal ideals for our society.  It does not mean that our individual ideals become diluted.

View PostAnti-Barbarian, on 19 October 2011 - 12:02 AM, said:

Of course, there can be unity in diverse creatures.
But i told you fraternities are not creatures.
They are ideas.
If you unite ideas, you would come up to a new idea
which is totally different to the each original ideas.
The whole is not equal to the sum of its parts.



Solid or non-solid.
For public or not.
For political or whatever.
They are bargaining the fraternity
and constricting it to a
sovereign.
You must not restrict fraternities,
so that they can breathe and grow.(personification here)


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Posted 19 October 2011 - 02:20 PM

View Postglimmer, on 19 October 2011 - 09:11 AM, said:

I agree that Fraternities are ideas (actually a set of ideals).  It does not follow however that unity among frats is equal to a new idea. Just like nations, we unite to promote peace and universal ideals for our society.  It does not mean that our individual ideals become diluted.

Nah, societies dont unite for peace.
Because if you let peace rule the environment,
you are just increasing the likeliness of war.
Societies "build alliances" for preservation of
lives.

Oh common, fraternities and political societies are
far too different.
Just don't build alliances
you are trying to hard.
Fraternity life is simple.
Don't complicate.

Look how pathetic alliances
are..
Stop controlling everything
And just Let go!
Let the chips fall wherever they may.
If you
can't study in a University...
how dare you to join a frat
and exclude yourself from "barbarians"?


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Posted 17 November 2011 - 06:40 PM

Puede bang sumali yung ibang UP Frats dito kahit wala silang leftist slant?

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View PostAnti-Barbarian, on 18 October 2011 - 08:54 PM, said:

Nakikipag-usap naman
ako ng maayos sa
bawat sa sa nyo
tol eh.
I search mo man
ang bawat posts ko sa forum
na to.
Sa tingin ko nag re-reply naman
ako sa pinaka rasyonal na paraan.

BTW, off topic na yun. Baka i-close na naman ni Admin ang thread na to tulad ng iba pang threads.

ON TOPIC: Ang punto ko, hindi dapat pumapasok
sa alyansa ang mga frat.


Una, dahil masamang ideya ang umasa sa
ibang frat para isulong ang iisang proyekto.

Pangalawa, mas mainam pang bawat isang frat
gumawa ng sarili nilang proyekto
at dahil dun, mas dadami pa ang mga proyekto sa
komunidad. Hndi yung lahat sama sama para sa isang
proyekto.

Pangatlo, hndi ma te-train ng maayos ang bawat brod
upang maging social worker and leader kung maraming
maaaring pag pasahan ng gawain.

Pang-apat, nawawalan ng identity ang mga frat na
kasali sa alyansa. Dahil sa bawat pag-unlad nila
ang alyansa ang umaasenso. Hindi mo sasabihing,
ang galing ng "frat", kundi ang galing naman
ng alyansang "X"

Panglima, lalong lalakas ang military force ng
bawat fraternity. Dahil ang nakabanggang fraternity
ay may alyansa, kakailanganin mo ring sumali sa alyansa
upang hindi matalo sa digmaan.

Panganim, Dahil malakas ang military force, lalong hindi
iisipn ng bawat frat ng bawat alyansa na makipag truce.
Siyempre, may alyansa na kayo mag ba-back out pa kayo.
Lalong tataas ang stake, dahil mas maramng frat ang masasabhang
duwag kapag nag back out ang isang buong alyansa. At ano ang mangyayari
kapag nangyari yun?

Pang-anim, magiging mas bayolente ang mga digmaan,
mas maraming sangkot, mas matagal ang digmaan.

At marami pang iba...

Simple, lang naman kase ang frat, huwag nyong gawng kumplekado, gawin
nyo ang dapat niyong gawin.


Iyon ang punto ko.

Nakuha ku na punto mo. Dahil iba-iba ang ideals ng isang Frat, kaya maraming Frat ang nabuo. Kung puro naman kasi alyansa, eh bat di nlng sumali sa iisang Frat. :) Sa punto naman ng iba, hindi rin naman masama ang Alliance ng Frats sa projects. Mabuti yung mga joint prohects, start of friendship and peace(sa mga magkaaway). Sa ideya mo rin, totoo talagang mas marami ang projects kapag isang frat lang gumawa, eh di yung ibang frat gumawa rin ng projects. Kesa mgpatayan kayu, pagandahan nlng ng projects nio o kaya patalinuhan kagaya nung mga Law Frats. Mas astig yun! :) Kung sa gulo, yun ang di maganda. Lumalaki lalo ung gulo, at kahit itanong mo pa sa lahat ng fratmen, hindi na mawawala ang gulong sinumulan dahil kahit 100 members kayu at 98 gusto ng peace, yung dalawa hindi nio nasisiguro na makikipag peace talaga yun.

Pero sa akin din lang naman, okay na walang Alliance, basta ngkakaunawaan ung mga ORG at hindi ngpapatayan.
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 06:50 PM

kanya kanya talaga ng opinion at lahat naman ng sinabi nyo mga kaibigan eh wala namang mali, actually para sakin, ang alliance hindi naman masama kung mabuti ang hangarin kung bakit nagkarun ng alyansa, like mga community/collegiate project, sportfest etc.. Pero kung ang dahilan naman ng alyansa eh negatibo sa paraang dahil sa gulo,sa opinion ko, dun pumapasok ang maling motibo sa pagkakarun ng alyansa, dito matatawag na pangit ang may alyansa dahil parang mas lumalaki ang gulo, before naman tayo maging fratman, iisang nationality lang naman ang dala natin,yun ang pagiging Pilipino, ngayon wag naman sana na ang ating Kapatiran ang magiging dahilan para magkarun tayo ng gap sa isa't isa, wala pa tayo sa pagiging fratman dapat meron na tayong unity para sating bansa, sa opinion ko uli, ang totoong role ng isang fraternity ay hubugin at bigyan ng guide sa buhay ang bawat isa, hindi para magkarun ng gap sa iba, katulad ng walis, kapag hindi nagbigkis, hindi magagamit,pero pag sama sama at may pagkakaisa, may magagawang maganda.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 08:32 PM

I agree with the point of Anti-Barbarian.

Fraternity Alliances whether for peace or for war, for projects or for something, for better or for worse, do not sound good to me.

We can always make friends with other frats but to make alliances with others is not "Self-Sufficiency" which we can be proud of.

If you want to associate with other frats, then why not join their ranks instead.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 08:19 PM

My interpretation of Anti-Barbarian's premise is that such alliances are composed of "weak" fraternities for they would have to DEPEND or RELY on other fraternities to sustain themselves or have their respective projects take flight. Another thing would be the enemy of one would be the enemy of all --- therefore making things more complicated as more people would be involved.

But not all alliances are composed of "weak" fraternities. Not all alliances are exactly what Anti-Barbarian was referring to.

The Grand Triumvirate of UP Diliman, also known as ASTIG (Alpha Phi Omega, Sigma Rho, Tau Alpha Inter-Fraternity Group) is one great alliance that does not in any way diminish the value or strength of each of the fraternities involved. To say that one is riding on the coattails of the other two fraternities is an insult to all three. The enemy of one does not necessarily mean it would be the enemy of the other. It doesn't follow that the two would also declare "war" against the third fraternity's present opponent.

We DON'T NEED each other to survive.

We DON'T NEED each other just to look good.

We DON'T NEED each other just so we can produce successful projects. In fact, I can't even remember a project made composed of only the three fraternities.

There is NO NEED. Only the WANT of having good camaraderie and fellowship among our three fraternities which definitely extends to our respective alumni thereby increasing our respective networks.

Every year during the Lantern Parade the three of us would gather and share food and drinks and re-establish our friendship. B)

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There are gangs and there are pseudo-frats... then there are fratmen and there are U.P. Fratmen... and there are Argonauts of U.P. Diliman.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 08:45 PM

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